Best Series

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  1. MFB

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    1) ENT
    2) TOS
    3) DS9
    4) TNG
    6) VOY
    [7) DSC]

    I love "Enterprise", it's my favorite Star Trek series since 2001 and so the sole lead. I tend to team up TOS and TAS in such rankings. TAS alone is a bit hard zu compate to all the other live action series. DS9 on third place is quiet close to TOS. TNG and VOY are close too. Ranking DSC on 7 should not be overrated. For me the new series is quiet strange. I am not able to put the series into context and I don't see what it aims for. But that can definity change with more episodes.
     
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  2. JesterFace

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    Good point.
    We might need a series poll for ongoing series, but it would be a short list, Discovery is first but also last. :)

    Michael Dorn might know..?

    Maybe in about 30 years we'll get a foreheadbump explanation like was done with Klingons of TOS and later series in Enterprise.
     
  3. Uhura's Song

    Uhura's Song Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I watched TOS in syndication in the late 70s/early 80s as a kid. Was there for TNG starting up again and engaged for the DS9 & VOY premiers, but then faded out. Missed a lot of those episodes. Ditto with ENT.

    As Discovery news broke, I had tIme to rewatch all of TOS & TNG. Recently finished DS9 & am in Voyager's last & Entetprise's first.

    If you would have asked my before the rewatch, I would have gone:
    1) TNG
    2) TOS
    ----------gap-------
    3) Voyager
    4) DS9
    ----------gap
    5) Enterprise

    However, after the rewatch, I realized a couple things.

    First, after being pretty bad early, DS9 got pretty good later and really built up well to conclusions as latter season storylines went along. I realized I hadn't seen or didn't remember a lot of those episodes (Sisko lying to get the Romulan's into the war was classic). The ending was a tad to pat at the end, but it finished strong after a weak start.

    Voyager is kind of the opposite. Good start that peaked in the first Jerry Ryan season. Went downhill from there though there were some nice moments later (Critical Care seeming prescient nowdays).

    I feel I cannot rate Enterprise yet, though season 1 is much better than I remember.

    Now:
    1) TNG (3-6 all excellent, 7 good)
    2) TOS (1-2 excellent)
    3) DS9 (4-6 excellent)
    -------gap
    4) Voyager (4 excellent, 1 good)
    5) Enterprise (incomplete, 1 is good).

    Seasons that were NOT good:
    TOS 3; TNG 1-2; DS9 1-3; VOY 5-7.
     
  4. Valenti

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    My father used to say TOS was a little bland but it had to appeal to aunt Maude in Peoria but to me, on the whole, nothing can outdo it or be better than it per say but some of the stories of the spin offs were better, esp. Voyager and TNG and DS9 in that order. They could start off the next time around by just trying to be as good as it to begin with and then go from there by making it bigger, spicier and relevantly more substantive.
     
  5. donners22

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    I like them all (perhaps barring TAS, but even that had its moments), but DS9 is on top for me.

    Great characters (particularly the recurring guests), epic scope and a more nuanced take on the Trek universe.

    I rewatched it recently, and it was remarkable seeing how far characters came over the course of the show. The flaws did show up a bit more prominently than I recalled, though.

    Hopefully Discovery will overtake it one day.
     
  6. MacLeod

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    That might be because Netflix has the global rights to DSC outside of the US and Canda (I belive)
     
  7. Mage

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    Deep Space Nine for sure. The most interesting characters, setting, chemistry between characters, most of my favorite episodes from the entire franchise come from DS9. It was daring, it was bold. I know that by today's standards, it is tame. But back then, it was something new allright.

    TNG is a close second, and the show I started watching first. But it's a bit to polished and perfect for me to be as good as DS9. Voyager and Enterprise are highly enjoyable, and I think I prefer Enterprise, but that depends on my mind and which season. At times, Voyager shone like a bright Star Trek beacon. And then, sometimes, it was shittier than a New York sewer.

    TOS..... I love TOS. It gave us the beginning. But 60's tv just isn't my thing. A bit too camp. Certain episodes I can always watch, no problem. And the characters are great. But as overall enjoyable tv.....no.

    And Discovery. That show is really doing it for me right now, but we're only half a season in. It's a sign of the times that people are hooked way too fast on shows these days and claim that 'this is DA BEST SHOW EVAH!!' only to drop it when a new show arrives. And that's unrealistic. A good tv show needs some time to develop. So, I will reserve judgement untill season 1 is over. I do really dig it sofar.
     
  8. JayTheTrekkie

    JayTheTrekkie Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    TNG is the best for me and VOY would be 2nd.
     
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  9. Sybok Was Wrong

    Sybok Was Wrong Commander Red Shirt

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    1) TOS- the music is classic, the stories are highly entertaining, the actors are full of enthusiasm, the simple & clean look of the sets are appealing. TOS is in a class of its own.

    2) VOYAGER- the concept for the show is compelling. This is the most appealing and solidly cast show of the bunch. Consistency well-made. Easy one to get your Trek-fix with.

    3) TNG- Bookended by bad seasons 1,2,7- and a so-so 6th. Seasons 3-5 are what make this series. Patrick Stewart is the best actor in Trek; rest of the cast varies in talent. Hits the highest "highs" of 90's Trek, easily.

    4) ENTERPRISE- time has been really good to this one. Deserved a longer run. Designed to be simpler. Trip & T'Pol are among the best Trek characters.

    5) DS9- maybe the best written of the bunch. For me personally, DS9 has a really unappealing group of characters in a visually unappealing environment- which makes for a questionable viewing experience. The Bajoran & Ferengi content is really not entertaining ingredients for me. Further, the cast is overall off-putting & prone to overacting. But that's just my opinion. I can see why others would rank it #1.
     
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  10. JesterFace

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    We'll have to "forgive" seasons 1 and 2 of TNG, they were finding their way after TOS, which eventually became the blueprint for all future Treks.
     
  11. Prax

    Prax Commodore Commodore

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    I love all 5 like I love my children: equally.


    ...uh..I don't mean I love Star Trek as much as I love my kids...but you know... Besides, the kids will one day leave the nest. These shows are here to stay.

    I think season 2 of TNG is great. Some of my favorite episodes are in there.
     
  12. WarpTenLizard

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    Um............ well I agree TNG was a great show, and maybe it's the best series in terms of consistent quality. Overall I feel DS9 was the best written, having a far more interesting cast and story than TNG but being more consistently written than Voyager. On the other hand, when DS9 wasn't good, it was often REALLY bad.

    I find the cast of TNG to be overall not that interesting, but still overall very likable.

    I'll say this: I think TNG was the best with sci-fi stories, DS9 was the best with large-scale drama, and Voyager did the best with small-scale personal drama.
     
  13. Ghost

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    Ask me this question fifteen years ago and I would have had said "Voyager".
    But now looking back at all the series I can't say that I have any specific favorite series (well I ignore TAS and Discovery so technically I am not counting any one of them)

    My least liked series would be Enterprise though it has a couple of episodes in Season 1 and 2, and the mini arcs that I find okay to watch but I would never consider them the best of Star Trek.

    Each of the first four series have episodes I enjoy watching and it really depends in what mood I am at the moment on which series I would like to watch.
    I guess the most quickest choices for me would be the Original Series (season 1 and 2) or Voyager (season 4 and 5) when I feel like watching some Star Trek.
    With TNG and DSN I prefer to watch more specific episodes that I enjoyed when I was following their run on television or on video rental.
     
  14. maneth

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    And it won't. It's available on Netflix here, although my husband and I are HBO Nordic subscribers, so it'll be a while before we switch to Netflix. I haven't seen Discovery yet, either. (Oh, and The Orville started on Fox on January 1...)

    Back on topic:
    I'm a Niner, no doubt about it. It's the show that gets the most rewatches (4 to date).
    My second favorite is TNG, it's the show I grew up with.
    I saw some TOS in the mid-80s when we lived in the UK.
    I really enjoyed ENT when I first saw it, but I haven't seen it more than once. Way overdue for a rewatch in other words.
    VOY is my least favorite Trek show, mainly because I just see the lost opportunities. It could have been great but the network executives played it safe and it was a huge step backwards from DS9. A second-rate TNG with much less interesting characters. I wanted to love it, but I didn't.
     
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  15. Amaris

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    That is a tough question, because the shows vary little by little every so often. Still, consistently, DS9 has sat atop the pile the most often.

    Right now, the list goes:

    1. DS9
    2. TNG
    3. TOS/VOY (They are currently battling it out due to my recent VOY rewatch)
    4. ENT
    5. TAS
     
  16. Xhiandra

    Xhiandra Commander Red Shirt

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    TNG.

    Presumably, anyone who says SPACE:1999 gets a lifetime ban?
     
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  17. CheeseCat

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    I love Star Trek : Voyager, and I've already started watching TNG, but I was wondering which Star Trek TV shows you guys would recommend. Any suggestions?
     
  18. Vger23

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    Star Trek is pretty good.
     
  19. CheeseCat

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    Any specifics...?
     
  20. Griffeytrek

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    You will find a fairly broad difference of opinion around here as to which is the best ST show. As a general rule TOS will always place near the top just for being the original and creating it all. TNG and DS9 generally fight for the spot beneath it. DS9 always rates surprisingly high as it is the most different show and in many ways the Black Sheep of the ST universe. But that’s part of what makes it so good. Voyager and Enterprise tend to be overall less favorably reviewed as their runs had much greater swings of positives and negatives. The current offering Discovery is a somewhat divisive subject and probably best not to deeply gone into here.