I don't want to get spoiled, so I don't watch any more clips of the movie. It'll be hard, since the German launch is a week after North America. But, I'll always watch marketing videos like this:
BEETLEJUICE, BEETLEJUICE (2024)
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I was in the middle of watching a movie, but I had to pause that, because I was notified that Winona did a full 45 minutes on Josh Horowitz's Happy Sad Confused podcast:
Very much this, I've argued for a while that the problem with the sequels was in forgetting that Jack wasn't the hero, he's a force of nature with his own agenda who hinders as much as he helps, but really it's Will and Elizabeth as you say.
Hard to believe there wasn't already an Honest Trailer for the original. Well, better late than never.
That was actually one of the best ones they've done in a while.
Wow, I had to look up Jeffrey Jones after the comment in the trailer, and I had no idea he was such a total scumbag. I guess that would explain why he's not back for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, I had just assumed he really died.
Wow, I had to look up Jeffrey Jones after the comment in the trailer, and I had no idea he was such a total scumbag. I guess that would explain why he's not back for Beetlejuice Beetlejuice, I had just assumed he really died.
Oh, I made the mistake of looking it up. 
It turns out we almost got a sequel in the '90s called Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian, which would have seen the Deetzes trying to revive a resort, and in the process they would piss off the island's spirits which would have been what lead to Beetlejuice showing up again. The whole thing would have been done in the style of a '60s beach party movie with Lydia getting a surfer boy love interest, and would have also shown us what Beetlejuice's daily life in the Afterlife, including his uphappy marriage and day job as a Afterlife supermarket janitor.
Sounds kind of crazy, but just the right kind of crazy that Burton and co. might have been able to make it work.
Sounds kind of crazy, but just the right kind of crazy that Burton and co. might have been able to make it work.
I feel like we dodged a bullet there...
A wonderful conversation between Jenna Ortega and Michael Keaton regarding acting, being celebrities (and the obvious gender differences that entails), and, of course, all things Tim Burton:
One more Winona & Jenna video, being quizzed about each other:
And this didn't come up in this thread before, but Tim received a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame the other day:
Winona and Michael give speeches, and Danny DeVito and (obviously) Monica Belucci are also in attendance.
For the eagle-eyed, the man sitting in the first row between Winona and Danny is Winona's long-time boyfriend, Scott Mackinlay Hahn.
And this didn't come up in this thread before, but Tim received a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame the other day:
For the eagle-eyed, the man sitting in the first row between Winona and Danny is Winona's long-time boyfriend, Scott Mackinlay Hahn.
You know Winona has had dark hair/been a brunette for so long it's hard to remember that she's a natural blonde and the only time we saw that was in 'Edward Scissorhands'.
I always assumed that was a wig or bleach job.
Not the only time. Lost Souls and Mr. Deeds also had her with blonde hair.
She's also said in one of the many recent interviews that her natural hair has been getting darker as she's gotten older, so there's a good chance that the more recent productions with her sporting brown hair were her natural color.
Definitely a wig. No way she grew her hair that long so fast after Great Balls of Fire. She was also filming Welcome Home, Roxy Carmichael around the same time as Edward Scissorhands.
I watched the film. There is one line I remember from another movie, Big Trouble in Little China, which sums up my feeling about the Lydia - Beetlejuice "romance" - "2000 years, he can't find one broad to fit the bill?" Or, in Beetlejuice's case, 600 years.
For myself, this film is a mess. Hollywood writers, both old and new, seem to have lost the ability to create a film without overburdening it with superfluous storylines. I counted at least six storylines (Astrid and her father, Lydia being haunted by Beetlejuice, Delia coming to terms with the loss of her husband, Beetlejuice's ex-wife looking for revenge, Beetlejuice's elaborate plan to escape purgatory, Lydia's manager's plan of being her husband so he can get her money) in this film. It's all too much, with the resolution being meh to some of them, others being "huh?", and one of them never being fully resolved as it turns out to be an elaborate prank. A prank that implies there are plans for a 3rd film. The villainess was a nothing -burger.
This isn't much of a spoiler, as it has been seen in the commercials. We see people being pulled into their cell phones. It is never revealed if these people were restored to their original state, and it seems that they are forgotten about by the main characters and the head of the church. There is another hanging thread about the shrinkers - the men with small heads; however, this is more spoiler Ly as it wasn't seen in the commercials. I will just say this wasn't resolved either.
I went to \see the 10 o'clock showing on a Thursday night, and my theater was largely empty. When the film ended, the few people in it got up and left. They weren't talking as they left.
I expect to see a sharp drop in the second weekend.
For myself, this film is a mess. Hollywood writers, both old and new, seem to have lost the ability to create a film without overburdening it with superfluous storylines. I counted at least six storylines (Astrid and her father, Lydia being haunted by Beetlejuice, Delia coming to terms with the loss of her husband, Beetlejuice's ex-wife looking for revenge, Beetlejuice's elaborate plan to escape purgatory, Lydia's manager's plan of being her husband so he can get her money) in this film. It's all too much, with the resolution being meh to some of them, others being "huh?", and one of them never being fully resolved as it turns out to be an elaborate prank. A prank that implies there are plans for a 3rd film. The villainess was a nothing -burger.
This isn't much of a spoiler, as it has been seen in the commercials. We see people being pulled into their cell phones. It is never revealed if these people were restored to their original state, and it seems that they are forgotten about by the main characters and the head of the church. There is another hanging thread about the shrinkers - the men with small heads; however, this is more spoiler Ly as it wasn't seen in the commercials. I will just say this wasn't resolved either.
I went to \see the 10 o'clock showing on a Thursday night, and my theater was largely empty. When the film ended, the few people in it got up and left. They weren't talking as they left.
I expect to see a sharp drop in the second weekend.
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Great Balls of Fire was about a year before production started Edward Scissorhands. I couldn't find out anything about when Welcome Home, Roxy Carmichael was shot, though it was released in late October of 1990, about three months after filming on Edward ended. Don't know if that's enough time for Winona to film her scenes and the post-production to take place for Roxy Carmichael, it was definitely a smaller production.
The real clincher is Mermaids. While it was released in December of 1990, it filmed over a year before that, with filming ending mid-December 1989, with Edward starting filming in March 1990. So, yes, most definitely a wig for Edward.
And I guess that's it for me for the next week, I'll come back once the movie opens here in Germany and I got to see it.
To be honest, Tim Burton's been a real hit and miss for me. When I was younger, I used to enjoy his movies more, but as I've grown older, I've liked him less and less. And Beetlejuice to me is a movie that is cemented in its era of the 80's, that frankly doesn't feel like it ever needed a sequel. I was never overly fond of Beetlejuice in the first place when it originally came out, and I guess I can't really understand the appeal for making a sequel anyway. I just remembered my Dad renting the movie and thinking it was weird.
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