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Except that line doesn't make sense in-universe, because that Batman wears a cumbersome rubber suit instead of tights. Although I suppose that in that universe, there could be a history of fictional comic-book superheroes who wear tights.
I noticed the same thing in Luke Cage where some character referred to all the superheroes who wore Spandex, even though none of the MCU heroes' costumes fit that description (except maybe Spider-Man, sort of, but Luke Cage might be pre-Civil War, since none of the authority figures in the show suggest that Luke needs to register his powers under the Sokovia Accords). And more generally, Marvel-Universe characters in the comics often refer to superheroes as "capes" even though few Marvel heroes wear capes.
Except it does make sense because Joker is just making a joke about Batman's costume and trying to ridicule him. He is not making a serious description. Jokes are facetious stories, not exact statements.
We fans tend to over analyze everything!
Besides, it sounds a lot better than:
"And where ... is the Batman? He's at home - washing his rubber!"
No, that's not the point. The point is, if the Joker lives in a universe where the only real superhero does not wear tights, where would the idea of a superhero wearing tights have even come from in the first place? How would it be a reference that his listeners in-universe would recognize, which is a necessary part of getting a joke? Although, as I said, it might work if that universe has its own tradition of fictional tights-wearing superheroes, with Batman being the first real superhero.
Tights are worn by ballet dancers, acrobats, gymnasts, little girls. People get that joke without having seen any other real or fictional superheroes.
Joker is just making fun of Batman's appearance because Batman is wearing what looks like a skin-tight, one-piece leotard, regardless of material.
And that's the point.
That doesn't even make sense. The joke was not based on the mere existence of tights, it was based on the conventional association of tights with superheroes.
Oh, come on. Nobody would look at this and call it a leotard.
Says you. Joker is saying Batman looks like an overgrown ballet dancer for all we know. If Joker had said "he's at home washing the underwear he wears over his tights" then you would have a point.
At that point in the movie almost no one has had that good look of The Batman. Remember this? Remember the "-what's this, -some kind of body armor, -he's human after all" scene?
Besides, it's a JOKE, not a description.
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Kindly stop assuming I'm a moron. Yes, obviously it's a joke, but a joke only works if the audience understands the reference. That is my point. A joke about superheroes and tights works for us because we live in a universe where comic-book superheroes are known for wearing tights. So it's incongruous for that same joke to appear in movies and cinematic universes where the actual superheroes do not wear tights.
That wasn't my intention. I apologize if you feel insulted.
The joke works twofold. We the real world audience understand the 1966/superhero tights reference. Joker's in-universe audience understands the ballet dancer/circus acrobat tights reference. The joke works and is funny in "both worlds". That's the point.
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In-universe, the Joker is basically calling Batman a sissy.
Except it does make sense because Joker is just making a joke about Batman's costume and trying to ridicule him. He is not making a serious description. Jokes are facetious stories, not exact statements.
We fans tend to over analyze everything!
Besides, it sounds a lot better than:
"And where ... is the Batman? He's at home - washing his rubber!"
Or
"And where ... is the Batman? He's at home - washing his bullet proof reinforced rubber suit."
Agreed. It was just a harmless joke. Poking fun at Batman. No need to over analyze.
Okay. Do you wanna get nuts?! C'mon! Let's gut nuts?!
I dare someone to analyze the scene where Bruce Wayne eats cold soup.
2 page essay on my desk by tomorrow lol
I will never understand hearing that sentiment from people who participate in an online bulletin board. The whole reason we're here is to talk about stuff. Analyzing the details of a thing is a way to generate topics for conversation. Especially on a genre-fandom board, where probably the majority of the conversation is about analyzing tiny details. Though I'm sure that people on sports discussion boards overanalyze sports plays and draft picks and whatever, and people on political discussion boards overanalyze every quote and sound bite from the candidates, etc. Overanalysis drives the Internet, as much as porn and cat videos do.
Christopher, the issue isn't overanalysis -- I honestly don't believe there is such a thing -- but rather that when you start something in a thread, you immediately begin arguing from a position of authority, no matter what, and then when someone disagrees with you, you pay the bare minimum of lip service ("Welllll, maybe, but, you see, in example XYZ, it was done this way...") and then have a virulent reaction to what you believe as condescension, when in fact many of your posts come across as, well, condescending. I'm not the first person to point this out and I won't be the last, but for God's sake, man, learn to let some things go instead of hanging onto a dirty, nasty, ragged sock as though life depends on it like my dog sometimes does. (The tights joke? Really? That, of all criticisms to level at Batman '89, is the hill to make a stand on?)
I'm not standing on any damn hill. I'm just trying to have a conversation to pass the time. It was an idle observation and I don't understand how it blew up so much, but that certainly wasn't my intention.
Oh God. Sudden horrible flashbacks of Captain America's first Avengers costume.I don't know, Captain America's Gerber Baby outfit comes pretty close.
Oh God. Sudden horrible flashbacks of Captain America's first Avengers costume.
Oh well. At least he's proudly wearing the Red, White and Blue instead of the brown, gray and Prussian blue and… that's the only nice thing I can say about that… costume really.
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