Arrowverse's Crisis on Infinite Earths to be 5-Part Crossover
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That depends on how she plays on her own show. She was the one and only good thing about the last crossover (even with her brief participation), so that's already a leg up over many of the Arrowverse usual suspects.
So she IS gonna be Harbinger FOR REAL???Everybody gets a suit!
I should have placed some bets on my prediction of this...
Seriously, no one could have seen this coming for most of Arrow’s run. Tom Cavanagh playing Pariah was the first sign it might happen.
Seriously, no one could have seen this coming for most of Arrow’s run. Tom Cavanagh playing Pariah was the first sign it might happen.
Everybody gets a suit!
And unlike the original, she even gets pants!
I'm guessing this will be a Lyla doppelganger, like Pariah-Wells. Although that makes it a hell of a coincidence that Lyla's ARGUS call sign is Harbinger. And it's always possible that it'll turn out that she was the real deal all along. I read that the Monitor saved the comics' Harbinger as a child, so maybe there's a hidden backstory to our Lyla. That would raise the personal stakes for Diggle and Team Arrow, certainly.
I wonder how many doppelgangers of our main cast we'll see besides Pariah and possibly Harbinger. I'm still hoping to see David Ramsay as a Green Lantern.
Everybody gets a suit!
It took me literally minutes of looking at this to remember who this is, and even once I figured it out I still don't know why an Arrow background character like her would have a suit of any kind (or would even appear in the crossover at all).
I really hope she isn't doppleganger Harbinger or something stupid like that
Guggenheim admitted within the last few days that a lot of these official announcements are to beat paparazzi photos. We are likely to see location photos soon.
But it’s very possible some actors are only working on inside stages and in front green screen. Which would be secret until air.
But it’s very possible some actors are only working on inside stages and in front green screen. Which would be secret until air.
Wasn't Harbinger's whole thing that she could be split up into copies and sent across time and the multiverse? Maybe "our" Lyla is a rogue copy? Or maybe she's just been undercover on Earth 1 this whole time? "Monitoring", one might say! 
I mean honestly, the costumes do like 90% of all the explaining necessary.
How much context is really needed though? I mean long term genre fans will know who most of them are and what their presence implies. And those that aren't, probably won't care so no point explaining too much.
I mean honestly, the costumes do like 90% of all the explaining necessary.
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I thought you were among the many who mocked those of us who early one wanted to see Diggle as Green Lantern (for example, I had hoped his middle name would be Stewart)
I am a little skeptical of it being 'the plan all along.'
I don't think there was every any initial intent to make Digg GL. It was just a really popular fan theory that started very early on and took off to the point the writers couldn't ignore it. Similarly, I don't think the use of Lyla as a name was meant to be anything more than how they used Felicity, and the Harbinger nod was nothing more than an easter egg. I could be wrong, but I can't think of them using 'Harbinger' on-screen since like season three.
And I doubt they could have ever foreseen COIE as ever being a reality until a few years ago. I mean even with the slightest shift in network politics, it never sees the light of day.
But I think once it was a reality, I think it started to feel a lot more likely. I seem to recall a lot of discussion about Lyla's role in last year's discussion. And it did seem like AMA was much more directly involved last year. So I'm really not that surprised by it at all.
The suit looks great BTW.
I don't think there was every any initial intent to make Digg GL. It was just a really popular fan theory that started very early on and took off to the point the writers couldn't ignore it. Similarly, I don't think the use of Lyla as a name was meant to be anything more than how they used Felicity, and the Harbinger nod was nothing more than an easter egg. I could be wrong, but I can't think of them using 'Harbinger' on-screen since like season three.
And I doubt they could have ever foreseen COIE as ever being a reality until a few years ago. I mean even with the slightest shift in network politics, it never sees the light of day.
But I think once it was a reality, I think it started to feel a lot more likely. I seem to recall a lot of discussion about Lyla's role in last year's discussion. And it did seem like AMA was much more directly involved last year. So I'm really not that surprised by it at all.
The suit looks great BTW.
I didn't watch the last event, but I'm imagining it's not so commonplace that people just walk up to each other and say, "Hello person from another universe, we need you to help out for five minutes but don't talk about yourself, okay?" If the guests amount to nothing more than walking costumes, I'll be tuning out quickly.
Basically, yeah. Although it's not so much that the writers couldn't ignore it -- writers have ignored countless wild fan theories before -- as that these particular writers love giving the fans what they want, because they're fans too and they want the same things.
Yes, exactly. Early Arrow was the kind of show that minimized its comic-booky elements, so it did a lot of taking character names from the comics and using them for very different, more down-to-earth characters, like Felicity, Lyla, Jean Loring, and the like.
Naturally. Back then, they wouldn't have had the clout to get away with something like this. They needed to be in a position where they were enough of a proven success that the network would give them whatever they wanted. They also needed time to lay the groundwork, by building up the idea of parallel worlds and establishing enough characters and continuity across multiple worlds that a story about a threat to the multiverse would carry weight.
The biggest proof is the fact that they had to move up the date of the Crisis that's been on that newspaper ever since season 1 of The Flash. When the show began, it put the Flash's disappearance in the Crisis 10 years in the future, which was comfortably beyond the expected running length for all but the most successful series. They couldn't have realistically expected to be given a 10-year run, so they probably intended the Crisis to be something they referenced occasionally but never showed. They may have hoped they might be able to do something with it someday, but what we're getting now is probably much more than they hoped for at the time.
Umm...allegedly? Characters from different TIME PERIODS in addition to shows...sounds about right. So the Legends will be picking up Mia and heading to Barry?
And here's a set photo allegedly from filming COIE.
Did they ever do a DC TV promo this year? The past ones have been lots of fun.
And Any Crisis comic covers yet?
Barry in Jonah Hex time would make him literally the fastest man in the West.
Oh, Iris!!
Boring married sex.
Thought you were talking about Wally for a second there.
Harbinger on location - along with description that she has a message for the Flash. Grant must be there too and they observed the scene.
Here's an interesting exchange from four years ago in the Arrow forum. 
Well here's a crossover I wasn't expecting...
https://mobile.twitter.com/StephenA...on-infinite-earths-tony-stark-endgame-homage/
https://mobile.twitter.com/StephenA...on-infinite-earths-tony-stark-endgame-homage/
Oh, snap.
