I think the word you're looking for is 'official'
CBS calls it DSC. But they also call Voyager 'VGR' and hardly anyone calls it that.
Anyone noticed this about the pronunciation of the Klingon language in this series?
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I think the word you're looking for is 'official'
CBS calls it DSC. But they also call Voyager 'VGR' and hardly anyone calls it that.
The various wikis don't seem to agree either. Memory Alpha calls it DIS, but Beta uses DSC.
Slow. Guttural. Grunting. Thick. Mouthful. These are words to describe the sound of DSC's Klingons. They are portrayed as an truly alien race. Making them speak English would take away from that, so I believe they should continue with the Klingon. Think about our own planet. There is such great diversity in language. Why in the world would we want to water down the Klingons by making them sound like English speaking pirates again?
^ Same reason the Russian crew on the Red October (in the film of that name) are mostly heard speaking English. It would be too awkward to keep using subtitles all the time.
I prefer DSC because DIS makes me think of "diss". I'll take that over people claiming there's no two ways around "STD", though. Of course there is. STTOS, STNG, STDS9, STVOY, and STENT (heh, "STENT") aren't what we use. We don't include the "Star Trek" in the abbreviations, and considering how many times I've seen it expressed so far that "Discovery isn't Star Trek", I'm not sure why we'd start now. :P
tldr; DSC > DIS > STD.
Annnnnyway, on-topic: I like the Klingon speeches, too. I wish they spoke a bit quicker though.
tldr; DSC > DIS > STD.
Annnnnyway, on-topic: I like the Klingon speeches, too. I wish they spoke a bit quicker though.
I agree, Chris Obi seems really enthusiastic to be part of Star Trek, and really seems to have done his homework about Klingons and their culture. At any other time, he could have really delivered a memorable and awesome Klingon performance. Unfortunately, they've more or less sabotaged him with the extensive prosthetics and teeth, not to mention a costume which looks very restrictive too. Combine that with the fact that the character doesn't really have interactions with anyone, he just delivers monologues. Even the "conversations" he has with other characters are more or less just monologues directed at them. And on top of it all, 90% of his lines are in a fictional language. There isn't really much any actor could do under these circumstances.
Enough with the Klingon already. What a colossal pain the posterior it was having to listen to those Klingon scenes.
I found myself channeling McCoy when Chang was busy brutalising Shakespeare; "I'd give real money if he'd shut up."
The Klingon language was painful to listen to, so many pauses. I like it better in the TNG era when they're just screaming at each other or singing dumb klingon songs.
Since the pilot has the most I've personally listened to anyone speaking Klingon, I can't speak to the accuracy of the pronunciation, but it definitely seemed like it was a chore to say through the prosthetics, so I give the actors credit for their work.
I didn't mind the subtitles; I for one appreciate the reminders that these aren't humans who wouldn't be speaking human languages.
I'd agree greater effort could be put toward making the speaking parts clearer and easier to understand (ADR perhaps?), but I don't need to hear the Klingons speaking English to be engaged by them.
I didn't mind the subtitles; I for one appreciate the reminders that these aren't humans who wouldn't be speaking human languages.
I'd agree greater effort could be put toward making the speaking parts clearer and easier to understand (ADR perhaps?), but I don't need to hear the Klingons speaking English to be engaged by them.
Memory-Alpha.org uses DIS, if that makes you feel better.
My problem wasn't that they spoke Klingon. It's that it sounded like they had a hard time doing so and there was no clarity to the Klingon they did speak. I would imagine that it would be hard for them to understand each other in the fictional universe. TOS and TNG+ Klingons would probably be like "neH Dajatlh, jat ghe''or chay'?"
Personally, there's an alternate shorthand I prefer. Then if (when) the titular ship suffers a big fire, it's a Disco inferno.
I'll show myself out.
Kind of like how an American from Mobile may have a hard time understanding someone from Newcastle and vice versa?
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