Princess Leia's aunt? I don't know much about her. Or do you mean Rogue?
Any chance of an X-Men 4? Ever?
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Princess Leia's aunt? I don't know much about her. Or do you mean Rogue?
Not only did X2 set the bar high and rev up fan expectations but Bryan Singer leaving to do "Superman Returns" (no this isn't a slag against Returns or Signer) I think didn't help X3 since he was never able to finish the story he started to tell us. No matter who took over the project weather it was going to be Matthew Vaughn or Brett Rattner they were filling pretty damn big shoes. I think they incorperated at least a small aspect of what Signer intended for Phoenix as an evolution of the mutant species but it just wasn't executed properly and was bogged down with the Cure storyline (I think it would have been easy to use the Legacy Virus or have it mutate in the Legacy Virus as Jackson suggested above). I have stated in the past that I blame Zak Penn but that's a little harsh, he's not solely to blame but I found his script to be weak and he comes off to me as a little pompous in the audio commentary which has since earned him my wrath lol. A lot of things were going against X-Men: The Last Stand.
how people keep spelling rogue as rouge is beyond me. rouge is a color..and has NOTHING to do with the character Rogue from X-Men.
the only part of this statment that should be true is the southern sassiness..as she was born in mississippi. however rogue is supposed to be brown haired with the white stripe.
but a red-head? um..no.
I'm expecting the First Class movie to veer off into it's own continuity if they get a sequel or two.
Well, I saw her hair as a reddish-brown.
When you're typing it's easy to switch two letters around. If you don't proofread you just miss it.
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Is there a character named Rouge out there? 
There's Madame Rouge from DC's Brotherhood of Evil.
Princess Leia's "aunt": http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Rouge_Organa
io9 also hypothesizes that the FC series could end up being a "reboot by stealth". So did last Friday's IGN Movies "Keepin' it Reel" podcast, for that matter.
Yeah, not only did they butcher the Dark Phoenix Saga storyline, which also happens to be my favorite comic-book storyline, but they butchered Whedon's "Cure" storyline as well, which happens to be one of my favorite comic-book runs in recent years. So, the film automatically gets written off for me because of that.
Seriously, though, X-Men: The Last Stand was just a disappointing film on almost every level. I think had X2 not raised the bar and really teased us with that cliffhanger then maybe our expectations -- or at least mine -- would have been considerably downsized but after what X2 promised it was just a big letdown.
In a perfect world I'd like to see Singer just ignore Ratner's film and do his own version of X3 but we know that's probably not going to happen. It would be almost like someone making a sequel to Superman II and ignoring Superman III or something. Oh, wait...
However, though, I do think an actual X4 could be very promising at least with Singer at the helm. You could prove that the Cure is actually the Legacy Virus which is why some mutants like Magneto had signs that their mutant powers were coming back to them. I think you could introduce Nathaniel Essex and the Marauders and introduce some interesting elements from the X-Men mythology. The real difficulty would be how to do an X-Men film without Xavier, Cyclops, Jean Grey and presumably Magneto. However I think if you were creative you could come up with ways of doing it.
Singer has made noises that he'd like to do do X4. Marauders Massacre would do it for me. Screw over Kitty, Nightcrwler, Angel, and Colossus and make way for some new blood and Archangel in X5.
Scott and Jean needn't be dead really since Sinister needs them to produce Cable. Lots of good stories can feed from these classic plots. Apocolypse in X5, maybe even Age of Apocolypse in X6?
I don't think it wise to speculate on X5 or X6 yet lol...but yeah as I stated on the first page of the thread there are still plans to bust out X4 and Singer expressed a desire to return and direct it when First Class was done and his commitment to "Jack the Giant Killer" is complete. I know that an idea for a New Mutants story as well. I think it will be difficult to get a genuine good story out of the events from X3 personally with most of the core X-Men gutted or altered. We'll see what happens.
There are a lot more X-men than the ones in X3. Taking the team from X3 plus Angel and possibly Nightcrawler replacing the Beast (Beast was the best thing in X3 but he had a self-contained arc so there's no harm in letting him rest) you've got a viable team to fight the Marauders. Kitty ended up being unable to unphase thanks to Harpoon, Angel had his wings amputated, I think 'crawler was cut to shreds by Riptide, and Colossus got pierced when killing Riptide and couldn't turn back to human for fear of bleeding to death. When Magneto tried to heal his wounds he ended up paralysed. Storm lost her powers before this story but Scrambler could be a good way to bring that power loss in, and Rogue's powers could return unexpectedly, leading to her stealing Ms Marvel type powers permanently.
With so many X-men taken down they brought in Havok, Dazzler, Psylocke, and Longshot (although I'd be happy if Gambit - who had a link to the Marauders - was brought in instead of him). Some new blood for the next sequel with a B-plot about discovering Professor X on Muir Island while trying to find a cure for the injured team while fighting Apocalypse's 4 horsemen. The basic second trilogy writes itself! Film em back to back I say.
would xavier still be in another man's body?
If one took that scene as canon then yeah I'd continue an X4 with Xavier in his double's body, although not sure how to explain it unless you said it was a clone. I know they were taking from the Cassandra Nova storyline but honestly Patrick Stewart doesn't look like an old woman and he didn't in that scene either.
I guess if you wanted to you could have an X-Men team comprised of Logan, Storm, Colossus, Iceman, Angel, Beast, and maybe bring in Gambit and Havok. My villain would be Mr. Sinister and as I believe JacksonArcher stated in an earlier post I too would reveal that the "Cure" has mutated into the devastating "Legacy Virus" and that Essex is actually behind it having given the formula in the first place to Dr. Rao. This paves the way for Apocalypse to be revealed in the next film. I would also introduce Bolivar Trask and the Sentinel program as the government's response to the mass hysteria created after the Legacy Virus relevation. Charles would seek to make amends with the depowered Magneto and offer him a teaching spot at the mansion of which Erik rejects wanting nothing to do with Xavier or his school. The film would end with the halting of the Sentinel program and the capture of Sinister who reveals that there is a much greater threat apporaching...En Saba Nur, Apocalypse! I thought about giving another twist and revealing that Sinister had taken DNA samples of both Scott and Jean before they died and created a clone...this clone would turn out to be Nate Grey, the movie verse's version of Cable but I would drop that subplot. It would also be revealed that Magneto is actually not depowered and has his powers back and returns near the end of the film to aide the X-Men against the Sentinels. Rogue also returns, having the side effect that she can now fly as well.
I guess if you wanted to you could have an X-Men team comprised of Logan, Storm, Colossus, Iceman, Angel, Beast, and maybe bring in Gambit and Havok. My villain would be Mr. Sinister and as I believe JacksonArcher stated in an earlier post I too would reveal that the "Cure" has mutated into the devastating "Legacy Virus" and that Essex is actually behind it having given the formula in the first place to Dr. Rao. This paves the way for Apocalypse to be revealed in the next film. I would also introduce Bolivar Trask and the Sentinel program as the government's response to the mass hysteria created after the Legacy Virus relevation. Charles would seek to make amends with the depowered Magneto and offer him a teaching spot at the mansion of which Erik rejects wanting nothing to do with Xavier or his school. The film would end with the halting of the Sentinel program and the capture of Sinister who reveals that there is a much greater threat apporaching...En Saba Nur, Apocalypse! I thought about giving another twist and revealing that Sinister had taken DNA samples of both Scott and Jean before they died and created a clone...this clone would turn out to be Nate Grey, the movie verse's version of Cable but I would drop that subplot. It would also be revealed that Magneto is actually not depowered and has his powers back and returns near the end of the film to aide the X-Men against the Sentinels. Rogue also returns, having the side effect that she can now fly as well.
Eww.
Tee hee!
Aye, but he didn't know his mutation process was lethal; he thought he'd only be killing one girl. Which is evil and bad, yes, but not quite as evil and bad as trying to kill billions.
By the time Magneto trapped the X-Men in the Statue of Liberty he knew that his machine was fatal which is why Wolverine called him out on it claiming if he was so sure of himself he'd be the one in the machine and not Rogue exposing him for what he was.. a simple terrorist.
So much like the comics since Wolverine became one of the top fan favorites? I swear.. back then when i was still reading comics on a regular basis you couldn't open one without Wolverine having a part in it.. he was an Avenger for fuck's sake with one of the most lame introductions/explanation ever!
Exactly.. each storyline should have been enough to fill a movie on its own. Dark Phoenix and The Cure are each powerful themes and i'd have prefererred The Cure for its sociological impact and story potential as opposed to Dark Phoenix which is "just" a good action theme.
They're gonna have to reboot at some point. They can't just make a prequel and then keep making more because eventually they'll 'catch up' to X-Men 1.
Well, since FC is to be set in the sixties, they've got a good thirty years or so to start with... but it's not the years so much as the continuity restraints. Mutants were being treated as a relatively new discovery in X1, iirc, which severely hampers possible storylines if they do decide to observe continuity.
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