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Angel- Why no Love!

I like Fred...it was sad when she became Illyria...but I liked Amy Acker doing Illyria also.

:drool:
 
I like Fred...it was sad when she became Illyria...but I liked Amy Acker doing Illyria also.

:drool:

That was actually one of the brilliant things about that particular story. Yeah, we were all sad that Fred was dead, but the actress got to stick around and play a brand new character that was completely different and still really interesting. As much as I missed Fred, I also loved Illyria.
 
I like Fred...it was sad when she became Illyria...but I liked Amy Acker doing Illyria also.

:drool:

That was actually one of the brilliant things about that particular story. Yeah, we were all sad that Fred was dead, but the actress got to stick around and play a brand new character that was completely different and still really interesting. As much as I missed Fred, I also loved Illyria.

Yeah, I missed her more when I found out the plan was to have her play both Fred and Illyria in season six.
 
Illyria was an awesome character though, and proved that Amy Acker can do something other then nerdy roles (although, as I said, I adored Fred), IMO the most challanging aspect was the "Illyria-as-Fred-as-Illyria" when Illyria disguised herself as Fred, there were moments when she still looked like Fred, but was Illyria. Awesome acting, IMO, the way her face went from the bubbly Fred to the blank, dead emotionless stare of Illyria.
 
I've caught Amy Acker in several different roles ever since seeing her on Angel, and I have to say that she's one of the best actresses out there. She needs to get into bigger stuff.
 
I am amazed that there is no continuation of the Buffyverse on TV now...a true shame really.

With Twilight & TVD doing well...now is the time...even though Buffy/Angel is light-years ahead of that crap.
 
I've caught Amy Acker in several different roles ever since seeing her on Angel, and I have to say that she's one of the best actresses out there. She needs to get into bigger stuff.

You wont see me protesting this, I think she is fantastic, and not because she is adorable (she is, really...) but because I am genuinely impressed with her acting. She can shift emotions pretty well, and I thought she was able to pull off creepy a tad to easy a few times as Claire Saunders.

I am amazed that there is no continuation of the Buffyverse on TV now...a true shame really.

With Twilight & TVD doing well...now is the time...even though Buffy/Angel is light-years ahead of that crap.

There had been several attempts actually, but they keep getting stalled through one reason or another. There's still working interest in Riley (I think? The Giles move, I know it starts with an R) and Spike movies, but nothing's been happening. A shame on the latter, because speaking of Amy Acker, she was supposed to be in it.
 
Awesome show. I love Buffy, but overall I would probably too say I prefer Angel


Anyone who misses the show I would recomend getting the Angel: After The Fall canon comic TPBs
 
It's ironic because it's my favourite of the Whedon shows... but I really have no interest in S2-S4. The mythology just got so dreary that I've mostly erased it from my memory.
 
I love it when the show went completly mental and gave Wesley an arsenal of guns and introduced slo-mo action sequences (almost unheard of in TV at that time).
 
I'm borrowing this from someone, I forget who: Angel was more consistent than Buffy, but it never reached Buffy's extraordinary heights
This.

Angel was just too paint by numbers it never took any risks which is why it was more consistent. Buffy took chances, some worked and some didn't (even failing miserably). But I think it's why it is viewed the more iconic, revolutionary show.


I like Fred...it was sad when she became Illyria...but I liked Amy Acker doing Illyria also.

:drool:

That was actually one of the brilliant things about that particular story. Yeah, we were all sad that Fred was dead, but the actress got to stick around and play a brand new character that was completely different and still really interesting. As much as I missed Fred, I also loved Illyria.
The problem with Fred (and I've said this over and over) is about half way through season three she became a boring, stale Willow-Lite completely wasting Acker's talent. She was so much more interesting when she was an eccentric neurotic who wrote on walls.

Illyria had so much more potential. They should have introduced her much earlier. Instead we only got a third of a season. I don't why Joss and Co. felt in necessary to continue to spoon-feed the audience a boring, tired, and trite unrequited love story. It should've been killed before it even started. I guess it was just to give Fred something to do.
 
f the reason for Bones being so successful.

Angel was a great show and a welcome break from the angry girl power crap on the other show.

:rolleyes:

Watch the last episode and then disagree with me. Go on, get your DVDs out and do it. See you in 45 minutes.

No DVDs or... alternate viewing methods... but Wiki has a great summary of the finale. Not seeing it (after all the only permanent death was the character introduced as angry-girl-punishing-cheating-men), so I'll disagree with you.
 
No DVDs or... alternate viewing methods... but Wiki has a great summary of the finale. Not seeing it (after all the only permanent death was the character introduced as angry-girl-punishing-cheating-men), so I'll disagree with you.

So you missed all the dialogue about the one Slayer (who are, inexplicably, all female) at a time rule being just a rule made up by men. Then, suddenly, Willow breaks that rule and hundreds of little girls suddenly become Slayers. It's about as subtle as a Troll hammer in the face.

So, actually, I wasn't even talking about the explicitly misandrist character.

Still, give Buffy a bit of credit - it has the most quotable line about the way women view men in the history of the written word.
 
No DVDs or... alternate viewing methods... but Wiki has a great summary of the finale. Not seeing it (after all the only permanent death was the character introduced as angry-girl-punishing-cheating-men), so I'll disagree with you.

So you missed all the dialogue about the one Slayer (who are, inexplicably, all female) at a time rule being just a rule made up by men. Then, suddenly, Willow breaks that rule and hundreds of little girls suddenly become Slayers. It's about as subtle as a Troll hammer in the face.

Indeed; it was sublime. :techman:

So, actually, I wasn't even talking about the explicitly misandrist character.

Even if I grant that Anya was a misandrist character for much of the show, her presence says nothing about the character of the show. How do other characters view her attitudes towards men? How are we meant to view them?
 
Even if I grant that Anya was a misandrist character for much of the show, her presence says nothing about the character of the show. How do other characters view her attitudes towards men? How are we meant to view them?

I don't recall anyone aside from the other Vengeance Demon character whose name I forget, actually calling her on it until she murdered a room full of men. It took someone else who also casually murders people to point out that women are just as bad.
 
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