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Spoilers Agents of SHIELD- The Final Season Discussion

People get hung up on age differences. I don't see why. If the people in the relationship don't care, it's nobody else's business. My Dad was 8 years older than Mom and they were happy as hell. Mary Tyler Moore was 11 years younger than Dick Van Dyke and nobody cared.
I think in Hollywood the young woman/older man has always been acceptable (at least to the man!).
 
The importance of age difference kinda works on a sliding scale; the older the youngest party is, the less it matters. So for example if the younger party is 19, any age difference greater than 7 years or so is bound to raise some eyebrows; over 15 or 20 years and it'll definitely raise some red flags, or possibly alarm bells.
Though if the younger party were older, say late 20's to early 30's most people wouldn't bat an eyelid at a difference of 10-15 years. If they're both past 40, nobody gives a crap either way. It's all about balanced power dynamics.

While in theory; sure what consenting adults get up to is their own business. However I think it's a given that in most cultures there's a degree of impropriety involved when the age difference gets to be cross-generational. Of course there's always exceptions, though those typically involve political/economic marriages or the kinds of behaviours restricted to certain protected classes in society (typically of the wealthy persuasion), mostly for all the reasons that lets people of that ilk get away with just about anything. Or when one of said parties (typically the female) doesn't get a choice in the matter; basically social and/or religious slavery as was the case with the literal sale of brides from convents...only for the discerning gentlemen of means, of course.

Fun side note: the etymology of the word "privilege" basically boils down to the Latin words for "private law". As in the law the ruling class can impose but not be bound by. Hence all through history crusty old aristocrats/emperors/chieftains/oligarch/whatever are carrying on teenagers, and everyone around them feigning sudden blindness and short term memory loss.


...Aaaaanyway, none of this applies to Daisy and Sousa. One is in her early 30's by this point, the other is in his mid to late 30's. Nothing potentially suspect there at all. Well, unless you go chronologically then Sousa is a little over 100 (and dead) in Daisy's end of the timeline and Daisy was negative 33 or so when they first met in '55. Such is the subjectivity of time travel. Though if it helps at all, Daisy's mum is almost certainly older than Sousa, so that probably balances things out.
 
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I was told that the scientific formula for creepiness was half your age plus seven. Meaning, it's all right for a 52 year old to ask out a 33 year-old because half of 52 is 26 + 7= 33.
 
I was told that the scientific formula for creepiness was half your age plus seven. Meaning, it's all right for a 52 year old to ask out a 33 year-old because half of 52 is 26 + 7= 33.

Gets wonky at elderly ages. 80 and 47 seems a bit...big for a gap.

Doesn't sound near as creepy at the young end of the spectrum with 22 and 18.

It's that +7 that throws it. If 7 is more than half the age then it cancels out the division.
 
Yeah but that's mostly because we're predisposed not to actually think about the elderly in relationships other than one that's already lasted half a century, much less about them still having sex drives. Which would be an *us* problem, not a *them* problem.
I’m thinking in terms of compatibility and complementary life experience, not sex. It’s clearly not impossible for such a widely gapped relationship to work (and I have no moral or ethical objections to my specific example), but let’s not pretend that it would not pose challenges unlikely to arise in a couple who are not from distinctly separate generations. It’s not about “creepy” but rather “practicality”.
 
I was told that the scientific formula for creepiness was half your age plus seven. Meaning, it's all right for a 52 year old to ask out a 33 year-old because half of 52 is 26 + 7= 33.
So it was okay to have a crush on the young lady at work who was 12 years younger than me - when we met she was 19 and I was 32, which, okay, was half my age plus 3, but that stretched out over the years of unrequited crush. When I retired I was 62 and she was 50, which is half my age plus 19, so that was just fine. If I'd kept working there, she would have eventually caught up and we'd be the same age. Right Abbott?
 
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As i mentioned earlier, the characters themselves are just like 4 years apart, in their 30's, so not an issue for all of us here.

Regarding "age is just a number"... i forget who.. but yes, there IS a curve... the difference between Daisy & Sousa are negligible, but between my youngest daughter & a potential suitor (she is 9, he would be 13 according to our example) -- MAJOR problems.

Also, not mentioned, are power dynamics.... a teacher and a student is a major problem, as could be boss and subordinate. But neither is a current issue with Daisy & SOuza.


But i think we are all agreed that we like Daisy & Sousa as a Couple, right?

Can't believe we are almost over!

ANy idea if Chronicom brains (or at least memories) can be transferred over?

And any word on Fitz??? or any guest stars? Hope we get to see Nick Fury one last time (on AoS)... it would be fitting. ANd awesome if any movie characters show up!
 
So after seeing the latest episode...
Daisy not blinking out of existence seems to confirm what a lot of people thought. That AoS IS going by Infinity War/Endgame's time travel rules and has been (pre-planned or not) the whole fucking time.

The team ended up in another timeline when they returned from 2091. And now God knows how many timelines they've ended up in this year. Daisy's still with us for the same reason that Deke's still with us. Their original timelines with their original parents still exist out there somewhere.

And this was even confirmed way back when. Remember that Deke's timeline didn't blink out of existence when the team left to change the future. We saw Flint and Tess continue on well past that point.
 
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This was a slight step down from last weeks episode. I think I just don't like Nathaniel all that much and with 3 episodes left I kind of wish they had already taken care of him by now, leaving the final three episodes to fix the timeline and say goodbye to the series. Paxton did a pretty good job emulating his father, in an unhinged over the top kind of way. I did really love the scenes between Jaiyang and Daisy though, and it did help having just saw Season 2 like a month and a half ago. I'm actually surprised how much they took out of Season 2 in season 7 as it turns out.

I'm hoping the end brings us to Fitz next week. I really hate to think he's only in the finale (I have been told he is in this season).

Daisy not being able to go full Quake was a little anti-climatic.

I did enjoy this episode for the most part, but I'm still wondering how they are going to wrap this up in 3 episodes.
 
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