Agents of SHIELD season 5

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Turtletrekker, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. Greg Cox

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  3. gblews

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    Well, I thought that the reason Deke mentioned the "multiverse" was a signal that perhaps the universe from which Daisy was pulled might not be the same universe from which the Quake disaster emanates. Otherwise, Deke could have responded to Daisy by just saying, "you haven't done it yet".
     
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    It might be that, but I don't see anything to suggest it's necessarily so. And Deke has no reason to assume that Daisy is going back in time, to him it's already happened, and she did it. So why would he say anything else?

    And I don't believe that it makes much dramatic sense to posit that Daisy can get that powerful in one timeline, without exploring how she can get that powerful in the timeline we are following, seeing what went wrong, and having it get avoided.
     
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    For some reason I got it in my head that Mar-Vell wasn't a "pure" Kree or something. Is the red eyes a thing there too? I can't recall.

    I suppose we'll have to wait until 'Captain Marvel' comes out to know if they're sticking with the "non-blue Kree" concept. Why take away an alien species one distinguishing feature? Aside from needing the lead character to look like a white guy of course.

    Seems to me like one of those needlessly complicated comic book artefacts that might be easier to just ignore. Hell, it wouldn't be the only such thing associated with that title! Seriously, for those unaware look up the whole thing about why DC can only publish their (older!) Captain Marvel under the title 'Shazam!' Short version: Mar-Vell exists only to block DC's rights to the title. Then look up the whole creepy mess with Carol's backstory where she gives birth to her own rapist. No joke!

    If this ever comes up and they *don't* make a 'Third Rock From the Sun' reference, I'm going to be deeply disappointed!
     
  6. JD

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    That connection honestly never even occurred to me.:lol:
     
  7. Alidar Jarok

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    No red eyes in the comics. I think the blues consider the pink Krees to be less pure, but, as far as I know, that's just racism.

    From a comics perspective, the blue Kree came later. I'd love to know when they first appeared. Also, Ronan was originally not blue, so I'd love to know when that changed.
     
  8. Turtletrekker

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    Didn't one of the episodes with Sif have a Kree with some sort of tech that made him look human?
     
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    IIRC it wasn't tech. I believe he used Nitrogen, he got from a hospital, to dye his skin.
    As an aside, I think that episode was directed by Roxann Dawson.
     
  10. Christopher

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    Vin-Tak, the Kree played by Eddie McClintock in the second Lady Sif episode ("Who You Really Are" in season 2), had naturally blue skin but used a "nitrogen cloaking device" to appear pink-skinned. It can't have been as simple as exposure to nitrogen gas, because, of course, Earth's atmosphere is 70% nitrogen already.

    As far as I can discern, the only Kree we've seen in the MCU who wasn't naturally blue-skinned was Korath in Guardians. I read that they were going to paint Djimon Hounsou blue but decided not to for some reason.
     
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    I might have missed something to the contrary, but I wonder if maybe the red-eyed human-looking people aren't alien-possessed Inhumans. Maybe the Kree operation isn't breeding slaves/warriors/whatever...maybe it's breeding bodies for a parasite species.
     
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    That was the bus' number? I was more clicking on the fact that Marvel comics take place on "Earth 616" in the Marvel multiverse.
     
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    It was at least the mission number, SHIELD 616 on her last flight.if not a permanent tail number.
     
  14. Christopher

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    I suppose they could be anything, but there have always been plenty of humanoid aliens in the Marvel Universe. There are a bunch of different humanoids in the Guardians films, many distinguished from humans only by their skin color (e.g. blue, purple, or gold) and some looking entirely human, like Xandarians. No reason there couldn't be a humanoid species with humanlike skin coloration but an exotic eye color (cf. Betazoids).
     
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    Okay - time travel paradox: If Daisy was sent forward in time before the Earth was destroyed, how did she destroy the Earth? She didn't exist at the time it was destroyed.

    Possible answers:
    1) They DO get back to the present, and she eventually does destroy the earth.
    2) They are in fact in a different timeline or multiverse, and it was that universe's Quake who did it.
     
  16. Star Wolf

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    I would just stick with Deke growing up in captivity and only having a framework newscast is unreliable. Daisy being the most famous Inhuman, due to Director Mace taking about her "undercover mission" and with a skill set that might account for the damage is blamed since he probably doesn't know about any other like Black Bolt or some random alien who could have done it.
     
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    Or... they do go back, but Quake does something different, and the future reality we've seen is consigned to an alternate timeline in the multiverse?
     
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    I didn't realize Korath was Kree, I thought he was a different alien who had just been hired by Ronan. But I double checked the MCU wiki and it does say he was Kree, so I guess I was mistaken.
     
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    Yeah, that's where I got the information. Of course, wikis aren't always correct, but apparently Korath is Kree in the kom -- err, comics.
     
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    I thought the same. Aside from the lack of visual similarity, the film didn't give any indication that he was Kree.

    Eh, not a big deal for me since I wasn't familiar with him beforehand and barely heard of the Kree before they showed up in the MCU.