Agents of Shield - Season 4

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I was thinking the same thing, but we did see him flatline.

It could still be a misdirect.
The flatline could just indicate his "life" in the framework, or his connection to it.

One thing I was wondering, if he was an actual inhuman in the framework, could he be a real potential?
Or was that just his wish fulfillment by Ada?

 

[CorporalCaptain]

It could still be a misdirect.
The flatline could just indicate his "life" in the framework, or his connection to it.

That would surprise me, because the dramatic beat played to me as establishing danger for everyone else, our series regulars, still inside.

 

[RJDiogenes]

I'd be surprised, too, but pleased.

 

[Christopher]

I don't expect a fakeout with Mace. The producer said they wanted the Framework story to have consequences, so death has to be real (even though it makes no damn sense in-story). Besides, he was a recurring guest star to begin with, not a series regular like Brett Dalton.

One thing I was wondering, if he was an actual inhuman in the framework, could he be a real potential?
Or was that just his wish fulfillment by Ada?

Had to be wish fulfillment. There's no known way to predict an Inhuman power in advance, so even if he had been a latent Inhuman, it would've been a huge coincidence for his actual latent power to be identical to the power the serum gave him.

For that matter, I'm not sure it was ever proven that Mace was Inhuman within the Framework. Maybe he just got to use a more permanent supersoldier serum.

 

[Photoman15]

He asked May if she joined "their kind" or is she just juicing up.

 

[Christopher]

He asked May if she joined "their kind" or is she just juicing up.

Yeah, but he was pretending to be Inhuman in the real world, so he could've been doing the same in the Framework. The writers' intent is presumably that he was really Inhuman, of course, but it's my habit to question and to consider alternate possibilities. And I guess that, for me, mere superstrength seems more in line with the MCU's technologically/medically induced powers than with the Inhuman powers we've seen, which tend to be more exotic. Although this is a simulation, of course, so Aida could've arranged to give him his Patriot powers as Inhuman powers.

 

[Star Wolf]

Yeah, but he was pretending to be Inhuman in the real world, so he could've been doing the same in the Framework. The writers' intent is presumably that he was really Inhuman, of course, but it's my habit to question and to consider alternate possibilities. And I guess that, for me, mere superstrength seems more in line with the MCU's technologically/medically induced powers than with the Inhuman powers we've seen, which tend to be more exotic. Although this is a simulation, of course, so Aida could've arranged to give him his Patriot powers as Inhuman powers.

The Patriot's power does seem to be a clone of the mother from the Bahrain incident.

 

[Richard Baker]

Aida did not know his powers were due to drugs so I think she just made the Framework version of him match what she expected him to be.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

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Spoiler

So in the Framework history Ward was recruited by Victoria Hand
It sounds like Garrett never got to Ward

Man, I can't wait to see what happens!

Spoiler

Did Garrett pick up Ward after he got out of prison as well? I don't remember his backstory that clearly, since it seems so long ago. In fact, the way the show has changed, it feels like his backstory came from a completely different show! At first viewing of the preview, I read it as Hand was in place of Coulson, but I also don't recall how far back Coulson knew Ward or if they only met at the beginning of the series, so that might not work at all.

 

[Richard Baker]

IMO best line from the show:

Guards- "Hail Hydra"
Coulson- "Right back at ya"

 

[Christopher]

IMO best line from the show:

Guards- "Hail Hydra"
Coulson- "Right back at ya"

I suppose it's a defter solution than Ray Palmer punching out a Nazi because he couldn't bring himself to say "Heil Hitler" -- but not nearly as satisfying.

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

I wish we could have a Framework spinoff series with Mr. Coulson, teacher-by-day who has small-time adventures fighting Hydra and making soap. Maybe give him a robot dog and a student sidekick to help him on his monster-of-the-week adventures.

 

[Velocity]

Maybe give him a robot dog and a student sidekick to help him on his monster-of-the-week adventures.

Throw in a blue police box, too?

 

[Turtletrekker]

"The Adventures of Doctor Phil"?

OK, I'll need to work on the name...

 

[Burning Hearts of Qo'nos]

Throw in a blue police box, too?

Maybe during an event episode

 

[Greg Cox]

"The Adventures of Doctor Phil"?

OK, I'll need to work on the name...

To Sir with Soap?

 

[RJDiogenes]

Welcome Back, Coulson.

Room 222 (character, longdesc).

Hangin' With Mr. Coulson.

 

[The Old Mixer]

The Greatest American Coulson
If Aida gave him a super-suit, he'd never want to leave the Framework.

 

[Star Wolf]

Head of Coulson's Class
The Coulson Shadow.

 

[Phoenix219]

The Greatest American Coulson
If Aida gave him a super-suit, he'd never want to leave the Framework.

6 Million Dollar Coulson and his bionic hand!