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Agents of Shield - Season 4

Does "Slingshot" need its own thread? Not really, as the main show is on hiatus and this thread tends to wander when the show is on break anyway. This will keep things focused.:lol:

Anyway, they are going to drop all 6 episodes at once, December 13th, so no having to wait a week for each new five-minute episode. Also, this is the Freshman directorial effort of former Marvel EIC Joe Quesada.

http://mcuexchange.com/comics-legend-joe-quesada-to-make-his-directorial-debut-on-slingshot/
 
Nah, I would think talking about the web series here is fine.

I'm glad they're releasing them all at once.
 
I finally got caught up on the last 2 episodes of AoS for midseason break.
I've not read the prior half dozen pages but will go back I doubt my reactions were too unique.

I fully enjoyed Ghost Rider and the Darkhold, now however, it seems that is going to rest for awhile.
Mack being possessed made for an interesting twist and sure did seem to indicate the Vengeance Spirit could do what it wanted vs how it was "given" to Robbie by another Rider. I'm trying to reconcile the two. Does the Spirit need a conduit to be passed or can it possess one at it's own will as with Mack all the time?
I'm very curious about the Slingshot 6 part mini, but, worried that only means like Lincoln or Tripp she's sure to die sooner than later.

So the last half of AoS s4 is LMD themed. It's essentially going to be Ultron-lite one things based on the teaser images. May, has she been there since being inflicted with he Ghost virus or has Aida/Dr only just replaced her when the Director sent May to fetch her in these last episodes?

Not having a Marvel movie to tie-into should mean, in theory, that AoS really does have a lot of creative freedom in the back half of the season. What with the May summer film being GotG vol.2 vs an earthbound Avenger related flick.
 
They've barely been doing tie-ins to the movies since Winter Soldier. Even "Age of Ultron" was barely referenced at the time. This first half-season was magic-based but didn't really tie into Doctor Strange in any real way.
 
I wonder what the Koenigs are if not LMDs. Perhaps they are just triplets/quadruplets/whatever.

They're Koenigs. ;)

Mack being possessed made for an interesting twist and sure did seem to indicate the Vengeance Spirit could do what it wanted vs how it was "given" to Robbie by another Rider. I'm trying to reconcile the two. Does the Spirit need a conduit to be passed or can it possess one at it's own will as with Mack all the time?

I'm working on the assumption that Robbie being moved bodily into that other dimension allowed it to slip what bonds kept it in our realm. So while he was there it was free to switch to another host to avoid beign dragged back down to wherever that was.

Not having a Marvel movie to tie-into should mean, in theory, that AoS really does have a lot of creative freedom in the back half of the season. What with the May summer film being GotG vol.2 vs an earthbound Avenger related flick.

Pretty much. AoS usually ends in May and 'Spider-Man: Homecoming' comes out in July, so they're pretty much free and clear until 'Thor: Ragnarok' next October.

They've barely been doing tie-ins to the movies since Winter Soldier. Even "Age of Ultron" was barely referenced at the time. This first half-season was magic-based but didn't really tie into Doctor Strange in any real way.

Not the specific events perhaps, but then how could it? Nobody other than the sorcerers would even be aware anything even happened. Most of the fighting took place in the mirror dimension which has no effect on the "real world" (for lack of a better term) and time got wound back so to outside observers, the incident in Hong Kong didn't happen.
Everything else was just random weirdness like a bald lady getting street pizzaed, a couple of robed weirdos popping out of nowhere in the middle of a desert and rain-forest respectively, with precious little to directly connect them it all probably went unnoticed of lost in the background noise of Quake's escapades, the Watchdogs attacks and Harlem going nuts for a few weeks.

I'd also dispute Ulton being "barely referenced" given that the mission they go on in Antarctica directly lead into the events of AoU by Coulson locating Loki's staff for Hill, then having spent most of the last year and over half the budget on refurbishing the Helicarrier that rescued hundreds of civilians in the Sokovia incident.
 
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I thought the season managed to subtly parallel it. They were talking about drawing energy from other dimensions, just like in the movie. Obviously, it wasn't a direct tie-in, but I thought it worked well. Even with Guardians, they managed to have the Kree appear a few months after the movie debuted (although, obviously, they had the Kree first in AoS).
 
Civil War has definitely been tied into, because the impact of the Sokovia Accords on the Inhumans has been a running thread throughout the season.
 
Yeah, that was an even stronger reference (even if it's firmly one sided and not even retroactively tied into something that happens in the movie).
 
They've barely been doing tie-ins to the movies since Winter Soldier. Even "Age of Ultron" was barely referenced at the time. This first half-season was magic-based but didn't really tie into Doctor Strange in any real way.
I think the Age Of Ultron tied in with the episode before the events in the movie. "We found it call in the Avengers" was well played. However it was the execution in the Avengers movie which suggested that they were doing some very public things doing the big job in beating Hydra which messed over the Agents of SHIELD story that they were taking down Hydra in a secret black ops war.
 
I think the Age Of Ultron tied in with the episode before the events in the movie. "We found it call in the Avengers" was well played. However it was the execution in the Avengers movie which suggested that they were doing some very public things doing the big job in beating Hydra which messed over the Agents of SHIELD story that they were taking down Hydra in a secret black ops war.

I was left with the impression that all of the little "raiding parties" Stark mentioned were of the various Hydra facilities we saw over the course of that season of AoS. That unknown to the Avengers, all of the intel on their targets was coming from Coulson and was a direct result of his team's actions. That once all the spy stuff was done laying the ground work, the Avengers would roll in, trash the joint and lock down any nasty weapons tech a given cell was developing. The final assault on Strucker's facility was simply the culmination of all of this.
 
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I wonder about the logic of doing a miniseries of six short episodes and releasing them all at once, instead of just releasing a single 25-minute video. Then again, each installment had different writer and director credits, and several of the main cast members were in only one episode each, so maybe there was some contractual or financial reason why it was more feasible to do it in six pieces even if they were released all at once.
 
I wonder about the logic of doing a miniseries of six short episodes and releasing them all at once, instead of just releasing a single 25-minute video. Then again, each installment had different writer and director credits, and several of the main cast members were in only one episode each, so maybe there was some contractual or financial reason why it was more feasible to do it in six pieces even if they were released all at once.
Netflix-like maybe?
 
Well, that was fairly enjoyable if nothing too special. I liked how each the cast members showed up in each episode. I especially enjoyed May's bad cop/good cop routine.

I looked up Yancey Arias up on IMDb and it appears Victor Ramon appeared in Yo-Yo's introductory episode, although I don't remember him at all. I guess this was a nice wrap-up for a dangling thread and I'll just appreciate it more if I watch the show again.
 
I like that even in a web series, they still manage to work in a Stan Lee cameo. ;)

I'm a bit confused about the presence of the old Hydra weapon. Didn't they recover that thing already? Twice!?
 
So it appears Coulson has encountered the previous Ghost Rider (presumably the Johnny Blaze version). Hopefully we'll see more on that sooner than later.

I'm liking this new direction the LMD's.

Looking forward to the Slingshot web series. Any idea how long the episodes are?


Yup, that bugged the hell out of me. :lol:

I would love to see Nicholas Cage show up on AoS :D :D :D

The first movie was surprisingly comics accurate.
 
I would love to see Nicholas Cage show up on AoS :D :D :D

The first movie was surprisingly comics accurate.
It's a shame that while accurate, it wasn't terribly good.

There's a strange trend I've noticed among critics and fans of comic book movies (and adaptations of anything really) where accuracy is equated to quality and deviation form the source material is cited as a flaw.
This may just be me, but I rather think a good movie adaptation has to first be a good movie in it's own right ahead of being accurate to whatever it may be based on. Calling Halle Berry's character in 'Catwoman' "Selina Kyle" would not have magically made that movie not god awful just as being true to the Johnny Blaze origin story did not automatically make 'Ghost Rider' objectively better.

On a similar note, being true to the essence of Tony Stark's origin did not in and of itself make 'Iron Man' such an entertaining movie. It helped, for sure, but there were a hundred other things from casting, to dialogue to scoring and direction that had to go right to make that all work.
 
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