This isn't the old days of self contained episodic television. We can presume that Coulson's demotion will be dealt with in detail as we move forward. This was only the season premiere, and they didn't need to shove everything in it. When the new director makes his appearance, explanations will no doubt be revealed in his scenes with Agent Phil.
Agents of Shield - Season 4
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Your point?
I didn't see any point in this scene other than to appeal to what ABC may consider its core demo for this show.. teenage boys with hormones to spare. I have nothing against nudity or sexy scenes if it serves a purpose or comes natural to a scene but to me this was just appealing to the "
... Chloe Bennet has an awesome ass!" crowd and it's just low hanging fruit.
The sudden appearance of the nude android/robot thing did achieve one thing besides getting some viewers stirred 'up'. The way the droid did not care or even notice that it was unclothed helped separate it from normal humans and their social behavior. I can't recall specifically where, but I have seen a scene like this before in a movie or show to show the perfect looking person is not what they seem.
(One comes to mind- the female alien in 'Lifeforce'- looks like a regular human, but wanders around completely naked and does not care or even notice)
(One comes to mind- the female alien in 'Lifeforce'- looks like a regular human, but wanders around completely naked and does not care or even notice)
^ That also happened on The 4400.
Female aliens/robots/mermaids/castaways/jungle girls/etc.. who are blithely unaware of the need for clothing are something of a sci-fi cliche, dating back to A Princess of Mars at least. And then, of course, there's FORBIDDEN PLANET back in the fifties:
"Care to join me in a swim?"
"I don't have a bathing suit."
"What's a bathing suit?"
"Care to join me in a swim?"
"I don't have a bathing suit."
"What's a bathing suit?"
I find it amusing that the discussion about Ms. Bennett's unclothed buttock(s) has gone on for a 30,000% percent longer period of time than they were on screen.
I find myself incapable of commenting definitively on that subject, which - considering my relationship status - is most likely a positive thing.Especially since it was probably a butt double anyway . .
I had to laugh when I rewatched the half-second scene everyone is talking about, assuming that's it. She showed more in S01E05 with less fuss.
Honestly, I think there's more complaining about the complaining than the actual complaining. 
Probably because all the people mindlessly complaining is far and away worse than the original complaint, which is almost always nothing to complain about in the first place. Certainly not by the people these white knights are so valiantly attempting to defend.Honestly, I think there's more complaining about the complaining than the actual complaining.
Having just recently started reading Runaways, I would love to see the Pride, or at least get a reference to them.
Nice catch, I didn't put that together.
I thought this was a good premiere.
I do agree that the shot of Daisy's ass while she was getting dressed was unnecessary. The Ada stuff was emphasized a bit more, but the android characters like her are shown walking around naked so often these days that I didn't think about it much.
I've read a bit about Ghost Rider on Wikipedia and the Marvel wiki, but this was my first real experience with the character. I was bit surprised just how violent and ruthless he was. I thought the car was pretty cool, and I loved the Skull effect, that really looked great. I like how they had the skin actually burn away from the skull when he transformed rather than just morph. I was expecting his brother to be a lot more severely disabled, so I was surprised when he was as capable as he appeared to be.
I liked how they set up the new situations for the team. It will be interesting where they all end up by the end of the season.
I was surprised we didn't get to meet the new Director, but we did some interesting set up. We did learn that Simmons was working for the Director as a way to try to help the team. I could definitely see this leading to some conflict for her later in the season.
It was nice getting to see Yo-Yo again, the scene with her and Mack was a lot of fun.
My point was responding to this:
I'm getting nauseous from all this going around and around in circles.
She knew what a flesh-colored bodysuit was, though....
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Marvel has posted a new BTS video all about how they made the Ghost Rider effects.
Seeing it again, they really did do an amazing job on it just from a technical standpoint. I think it's some of the best CGI effects I've ever seen on TV.
Seeing it again, they really did do an amazing job on it just from a technical standpoint. I think it's some of the best CGI effects I've ever seen on TV.
I wouldn't be surprised if Coulson and other members of the team clash with Shield's new leadership and go on the run too and join up with Daisy.
Undoubtedly, Marvel will eventually publish Ghost Avengers, feature flaming-skulled characters who ride motorcycles, cars, wheelchairs, segways, surfboards, and roller skates.
A non underwear related comment: Just watched the episode again and picked up that it seems as though Robbie made the decision to attack Daisy with little to no provocation; just because she might find out what's in the garage. I mean sure clearly she was being suspicious but for all he knows she could have been a reporter tracking a story and he was ready to key-knuckle her in the back of the head.
Indeed, if I'm reading this right the Ghost Rider itself saw she was an innocent (for lack of a better term) and let her live. So maybe Robbie is really the "anti" side of this anti-hero and the spirit of vengeance is the "hero"?
For me the funny part is that it wasn't even much of a complaint to begin with. Merely the *suggestion* that *maybe* that one particular shot was "a tad unnecessary". Apparently that's what qualifies as "overrating" these days.
I didn't even think much of it when I first posted the comment in passing, but the disproportionate response sure made me sit up and pay attention. Methinks some here doth protest too much.
Also note that I had no problem with the fully nude android scene, because that scene actually served a purpose and made sense in context. That other shot...not so much IMO.
This is right in their wheelhouse too as IIRC at least two of them are of the mystical persuasion. They'd certainly wouldn't want an earthbound spirit of vengeance running around their territory, ripping spines out of their serf's backs. That's assuming of course that they'll be sticking close to the source material.
You're right though I did miss that particular comment and that's on me. Apologies for the unfounded insinuation.
My initial point stands however, since (unless I missed anything else of substance) that's one slightly hyperbolic comment against about five reasonably tempered ones. Does the general backlash and accusations of uptight prudishness honestly seem fair and proportional to you?
Indeed, if I'm reading this right the Ghost Rider itself saw she was an innocent (for lack of a better term) and let her live. So maybe Robbie is really the "anti" side of this anti-hero and the spirit of vengeance is the "hero"?
Honestly, I think there's more complaining about the complaining than the actual complaining.
For me the funny part is that it wasn't even much of a complaint to begin with. Merely the *suggestion* that *maybe* that one particular shot was "a tad unnecessary". Apparently that's what qualifies as "overrating" these days.
I didn't even think much of it when I first posted the comment in passing, but the disproportionate response sure made me sit up and pay attention. Methinks some here doth protest too much.
Also note that I had no problem with the fully nude android scene, because that scene actually served a purpose and made sense in context. That other shot...not so much IMO.
This is right in their wheelhouse too as IIRC at least two of them are of the mystical persuasion. They'd certainly wouldn't want an earthbound spirit of vengeance running around their territory, ripping spines out of their serf's backs. That's assuming of course that they'll be sticking close to the source material.
Me too.
You're right though I did miss that particular comment and that's on me. Apologies for the unfounded insinuation.
My initial point stands however, since (unless I missed anything else of substance) that's one slightly hyperbolic comment against about five reasonably tempered ones. Does the general backlash and accusations of uptight prudishness honestly seem fair and proportional to you?
"Fair"? It's not a competition, and I'm not keeping score. I noticed what you might call a "disproportionate response" to the scene itself, put in my 2 cents about it, and would have been happy to leave it at that if I hadn't been challenged about it.
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