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Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)
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Having seen Age of Ultron tonight, I could see that being a distinct possibility.
I doubt they could remotely afford that in the show.
I think we have long since passed the era of television in which you could get away with re-using the same few establishing shots over and over again.
That doesn't mean that Agents of SHIELD coudldn't do it, though.
It is interesting to me though that of all the footage that could be used from the films, not a lot actually is utilized on the show. I think the most I can recall would be a few visual effects shots of one of Insight helicarriers crashing into the Triskelion during the big two-parter last year after THe Winter Soldier premiered, and even then, that was just in the "previously on Marvel's Agents of SHIELD..." bit at the beginning of the episode.
Still, I think it wouldn't be altogether too much of a stretch for the show to use the sets. They already use the Quinjet.
It is interesting to me though that of all the footage that could be used from the films, not a lot actually is utilized on the show. I think the most I can recall would be a few visual effects shots of one of Insight helicarriers crashing into the Triskelion during the big two-parter last year after THe Winter Soldier premiered, and even then, that was just in the "previously on Marvel's Agents of SHIELD..." bit at the beginning of the episode.
Still, I think it wouldn't be altogether too much of a stretch for the show to use the sets. They already use the Quinjet.
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Theoretically, it would cost the exact same to have a cgi shot of a fake Bus flying through the sky as it would a fake Quinjet. Or a fake Helicarrier. Or a fake UFO. Or a fake whatever. It's not like the cgi folks sit there and say "oh no, a submarine is going to cost a lot more".
Underwater bases, here we come!
Underwater bases, here we come!
Uh, yes, larger more complex CGI models do cost more to render because of computer resources required.
I think that's a bit like asking how 9/11 could change everything forever, since it only destroyed two and a half buildings.
To start, we've got one of the Infinity Stones basically running around in the person of the Vision, and God only knows who's gonna come looking for it.
Apparently an important city of an entire European country is now missing, and God only knows how many folks the dust from that explosion are going to kill a la dust from the World Trace Center killing thousands of New Yorkers years later.
Hydra may or may not have been taken out of commission now: Strucker is dead and his headquarters occupied. I suppose we'll find out on AoS if Hydra has been dismantled or merely temporarily crippled.
But most importantly -- Stark Industries is apparently backing the establishment of a permanent institution dedicated to organized superhero-ing. One that appears to be administered by the no-longer-in-hiding Nick Fury. And they may or may not have put Hellicarrier 64 into the Avengers Initiative's permanent power. So basically, it's an off-brand version of SHIELD -- it's I Can't Believe It's Not SHIELD. And who knows if I Can't Believe It's Not SHIELD will get along well with Gonzalez-SHIELD or Coulson-SHIELD?
And I can't imagine that things like the Hulk's attack on Johannesburg and subsequent disappearance, or the establishment of the Avengers Initiative as a permanent superhero institution, won't end up feeding the political fires that will rage in Captain America: Civil War. Particularly that Hellicarrier -- no way people aren't going to feel threatened by something so powerful being in private hands who have already placed themselves above the law by not turning over Banner.
And I rather imagine that there were probably a lot more casualties from the various Ultrons throughout the world than we ever saw.
To start, we've got one of the Infinity Stones basically running around in the person of the Vision, and God only knows who's gonna come looking for it.
Apparently an important city of an entire European country is now missing, and God only knows how many folks the dust from that explosion are going to kill a la dust from the World Trace Center killing thousands of New Yorkers years later.
Hydra may or may not have been taken out of commission now: Strucker is dead and his headquarters occupied. I suppose we'll find out on AoS if Hydra has been dismantled or merely temporarily crippled.
But most importantly -- Stark Industries is apparently backing the establishment of a permanent institution dedicated to organized superhero-ing. One that appears to be administered by the no-longer-in-hiding Nick Fury. And they may or may not have put Hellicarrier 64 into the Avengers Initiative's permanent power. So basically, it's an off-brand version of SHIELD -- it's I Can't Believe It's Not SHIELD. And who knows if I Can't Believe It's Not SHIELD will get along well with Gonzalez-SHIELD or Coulson-SHIELD?
And I can't imagine that things like the Hulk's attack on Johannesburg and subsequent disappearance, or the establishment of the Avengers Initiative as a permanent superhero institution, won't end up feeding the political fires that will rage in Captain America: Civil War. Particularly that Hellicarrier -- no way people aren't going to feel threatened by something so powerful being in private hands who have already placed themselves above the law by not turning over Banner.
And I rather imagine that there were probably a lot more casualties from the various Ultrons throughout the world than we ever saw.
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Ah, you think they are replacing the Bus with a helicarrier? I could go for that.
Having seen Age of Ultron tonight, I could see that being a distinct possibility.
I object to the word "strangely".
Also, Captain Marvel had a Mini####### for a while.
Also, Captain Marvel had a Mini####### for a while.
That Skye sequence really was quite amazing. She's definitely become the heart and soul of the show. I hope Disney gets wise and gives Bennet some decent parts, even if they're standard feel-good family fare, to give her star a bit of a kick in the butt over the next few years and add Skye to the 2018 film.
Yeah, except AoS has already made plenty of (re)use of a handful of establishing shots--usually of the Bus, or more lately the quinjet. It's the same basic idea and you get away with it because 90% of the time that's all you're going to need on an episode to episode basis. I'm not saying those are the *only* shots they could possibly use, but they would make up the bulk of it if they go that way.
Plus as someone pointed out, in the days of CG, there isn't a massive difference between rendering a shot of a plane than anything else, beyond perhaps the polycount of the mesh.
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Except that that's not true. What they do for any kind of show, is make a series of standard shots. Like in Star Trek, where you get the stock flyby shots. More involved shots however, ask for more rendering of models. The helicarrier is a far more advanced and involved model than the Bus. It has more details, moving parts and textures. So, making loads of new shots with it, is costly.
My sense is that if you're re-using establishing shots of the Bus, that only works if they're really short shots and if they're designed to make the Bus look a little boring, so you're not really paying attention to the shot (and therefore not noticing that it's the same shot you saw in prior episodes). And I say this having never noticed any reused establishing shots of the Bus.
I'm skeptical that you can do this with the Hellicarrier, simply because -- holy shit, how do you make that look boring? How do you design a shot of the Hellicarrier that doesn't invite the audience's attention to detail?
And it is my understanding that any given CGI shot requires time to render, and that the amount of time increases with the complexity and quality of the CG model (to the point where, for instance, the visual effects guys working on ENT back in 2001 re-used a CGI shot of a 23rd Century Klingon battleship in the third episode in spite of it being too advanced, because there just wasn't enough time and money to create a proper 22nd Century Klingon ship by that episode's deadline).
It depends how crafty you are though. If you comission a ten to fifteen second helicarrier shot with maybe a couple of different planes taking off, you've then got two different launches and a few seconds of not much happening. That gives you a choice of at least three short establishing shots. Swap out the backgrounds and you can have the same shot over land or sea, doubling your options to six plus. Flip the images left to right and you double them again.
You could also redo the shots for night-time, which would obviously take a lot more work and expense, but you don't need to do lots of completely new shots.
You could also redo the shots for night-time, which would obviously take a lot more work and expense, but you don't need to do lots of completely new shots.
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