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Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)

Yeah, in "Marvel time" Wanda and Pietro have only been known as Magneto's kids for a short time. Mostly they've known him as the abusive douchebag racist who forced them into being terrorists and later as an enemy. Django was more their father than him.
 
Guessing that USDoD still considered SHIELD to have been "theirs" considering where that committee hearing interrogating Natasha was decorated as being located...?

In think that has more to do with what went down on their turf (the U.S. in general and DC especially) than any part of Shield being "theirs". It's been fairly well implied that Shield wasn't a solely US government agency, but and international one. Like th CIA/MI6 version of InterPol....only with ridiculously advanced technology.

As for the Triskellion, I think Marvel had said some time prior to TWS that in the MCU, Shield's existence was never a secret, but what they got up to was highly classified.

Think of it this way; everyone knows that MI6 exists and even where the SIS building is (you can hardly miss it!) but they don't generally advertise what they get up to on a day-to-day basis.

Or perhaps a more apt comparison, most people have probably heard of InterPol, but only have a general sense of what they're about and probably couldn't name where they're head-quartered (Lyon, incidentally. I had to look it up!)

Eh, for much of their lives, they didn't know who their father was. They grew up in eastern Europe far from him. They can be cryptic about their abilities and origins without deviating at all from their actual origin story. They don't have to use any words that start with M to do that.

Yes, we should remember that Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch were appearing in Marvel Comics for nearly twenty years before they were retconned to be Magneto's children. So it's not like you can't tell AVENGERS stories about them without mentioning their parents . . .

Marvel did it for years and years!

This is what only have a passing familiarity with Marvel gets me. I had no idea it was a retcon. ;)

Could Marvel studios get away with having someone say something like, "As far as I know, he was some nobody who died in a car accident. What was his name again? Eh...Ehr...something like that?"

In theory, sure they *could* allude to mutants and Magneto without specifically naming them, but I don't think they *want* to do that. If what's going down the Fantastic Four is any indication, they're looking to avoid even tangentially supporting what's owned by another studio, provided they can do so without loosing themselves a massive amount of money.

Of course it's all supposition based on assumptions and theories at this point. We don't know yet if "the twins" were created by Hydra (with or without the staff---whether or not the staff's gem is an infinity stone or otherwise) or if their abilities are natural (for lack of a better term) and Hydra simply found and recruited/abducted them at a young age. As indeed they attempted to do with Skye.
 
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Sometimes not being familiar is a good thing, though, because of so many changes.

Such as, I believe in at least one version, they were raised as children by a cow.

A modified cow that the High Evolutionary made into a sort of cow woman, but I doubt that will come up.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I remembered wrong, but http://www.comicvine.com/bova/4005-11503/ I was partially right.

Actually, High Evolutionary had something to do with a lot of different things at some point, I wonder if MCU will use him, that would be interesting because there's so many things he could do or be used for.



And I still think the Triskelion was the Pentagons Landromat as the cover.


If you ever saw Muppets from Space, their secret organization was a cement factory.
 
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Yeah, in "Marvel time" Wanda and Pietro have only been known as Magneto's kids for a short time. Mostly they've known him as the abusive douchebag racist who forced them into being terrorists and later as an enemy. Django was more their father than him.

And for a while they were believed to be the long-lost children of Golden Age heroes The Whizzer and Miss America.

I'm going to go out on a limb and predict that the Whizzer (who got his powers from a transfusion of mongoose blood) will NOT be appearing in Age of Ultron . . . .
 
Sometimes not being familiar is a good thing, though, because of so many changes.

Such as, I believe in at least one version, they were raised as children by a cow.

A modified cow that the High Evolutionary made into a sort of cow woman, but I doubt that will come up.

Yeah, I wasn't sure if I remembered wrong, but http://www.comicvine.com/bova/4005-11503/ I was partially right.

I think we need to start a rumor that Nathan Fillion will be playing Bova the Cow-Woman in the new movie . . .

Hey, they've already referenced Bessie the Hellcow on Agents of SHIELD, so why not another canonical Marvel bovine? :)
 
Actually, High Evolutionary had something to do with a lot of different things at some point, I wonder if MCU will use him, that would be interesting because there's so many things he could do or be used for.

I'm still clinging to my longshot theory that Skye's dad is (or perhaps will become) the High Evolutionary.
 
I thought the chronology was a bit off...e.g., they'd have Agent 13 do a voiceover about Jim Shooter taking over in 1978, then do a montage about developments in the early 70s.

Very good episode this past week (finally watched it tonight with a buddy.) Glad "Crazy Colson" is apparently done, interesting to see where we go with Ward from here. Though it seemed a bit jarring from where we left off in the previous episode to this one, for a moment I was wondering if they even knew what happened with Ward when he left the base.
 
I am not really that worried about the SHIELD timeline. I think it is pretty obvious that the plan for SHIELD's background evolved since the original Iron Man movie, but there is nothing wrong with the concept that SHIELD remained secret up until the battle of New York.

Any glitches in continuity up until this point could be explained relatively easily and there will be many opportunities to do so over the next few years if TPTB feel it is necessary.
 
Just saw the episode. Mystery solved.

"It's not two- dimensional."

Sure enough, it wasn't. It wasn't so much a map as it was a blueprint. Then the compulsion was gone.

BTW, Coulson did say dark side of SHIELD.
 
It's not a map to Knowhere, though, it's a blueprint for a city. Skye's comment predates Pratt's anyway, if I'm not mistaken.
 
It's not a map to Knowhere, though, it's a blueprint for a city. Skye's comment predates Pratt's anyway, if I'm not mistaken.

It was more of a joke. ;) It would be cool, but I asumed from the get-go it's something buried on Earth.
 
I am not really that worried about the SHIELD timeline. I think it is pretty obvious that the plan for SHIELD's background evolved since the original Iron Man movie, but there is nothing wrong with the concept that SHIELD remained secret up until the battle of New York.

Any glitches in continuity up until this point could be explained relatively easily and there will be many opportunities to do so over the next few years if TPTB feel it is necessary.

That or some governments are rewriting the history to benefit their current policy of arresting SHIELD agents and confiscating their stuff on the pretext that their all terrorists.
 
LOL..How evil is Ward?

He jacks little girl's ride at parties. :lol:
http://instagram.com/p/veCe40QjZK/?modal=true

C'mon May, don't let him get away with that.
And where's Coulson? :)

Wow, Ming Na is very, very hawt. Click her name to see more from her Instagram page.
veCe40QjZK
 
Ratings for Agents Of Shield have been down this year, as many of you are surely aware, but there's some good news on the 7-day dvr ratings front:

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/11/17/modern-family-has-biggest-adults-18-49-ratings-increase-elementary-parnethood-the-originals-top-percentage-gains-the-blacklist-leads-viewer-gains-in-live-7-ratings-for-week/328676/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Tvbythenumbers+%28TVbytheNumbers%29


I suspect there's a decent number of people out there who are waiting until December and plan to watch the whole first half of the season all at once too.
 
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