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Actually... I quite like that episode.

I really like Skin of Evil. Armus is such a tragic villain; he's not some evil mastermind, but simply a powerful being born without the prerequisites for compassion.

The episode also has what I consider to be the best death in the franchise, because unlike most Hollywood deaths it wasn't romanticized. It was shown just the way death usually is for us regular mortals: Tragic, pointless and indiscriminate.
 
I love Genesis, one of my favs, some really great/creepy body-horror fx (Spider-Barclay ftw). Threshold has some cool moments too (if you are able to ignore the premise). I like most of Ent, oh and Insurrection and Generations. I hated Masks as a kid but have come to appreciate it.
 
I'm curious if anyone likes episodes that are usually held up for ridicule in the community?

Are there any fans of TNG's 'Justice' or 'Shades of Gray'?
Is Voyager's Prototype on your must see list every time you rewatch the series?
Can you watch 'The Way to Eden' with a straight face?

Personally, my guilty pleasure is 'Move Along Home'. Yes I know. I do love the story and the 'Allamaraine' sequence is so funny! I love the discomfort in Kira and Bashir's faces when they have to do it.

So come on, get it off your chest, which is the episode that you will always think, "Actually I quite like that episode" when people start slating it? Let's be civil and on this occasion leave the movies to one side.

I like move along home too. Partly because it was the first DS9 episode enjoyed when it was new. DS9 became my favourite (including earlier episodes later), but didn't like it to begin with.

Not an episode but Star Trek III TSFS often gets a tough time of it which baffles me. Threshold has some excellent acting from McNeill. Unfication gets a tough time too. Most of the first two seasons of DS9 are downplayed unfairly. I liked the 5th season one with Worf in the mudbath but I must confess I do skip over it. The Hunted (TNG) doesn't bother me neither does Data's Day. Both sometimes get dogs abuse but I think that's unfair.

I wasn't aware Data's Day gets bad rep - it's one of my favourites!
 
I liked the Search for Spock, 'Don't call me Tiny.'
I always liked Search for Spock. There were a lot of good lines in the scene breaking McCoy out like the one mentioned above. I don't see why other's might hate it. It's part 2 of a 3 movie arc. Is it just because it's an odd-numbered movie and the other ones (1 & 5) aren't well received? The old odd number curse.
 
Well, speaking of the "odd number" curse, I am second to, well, three people in my love of Star Trek: The Motion Picture. The only TOS movie I don't like is 5, and even then it's not unwatchable. (1/2 - tie, 3, 4, 6, 5)
 
I echo the sentiments towards Genesis too. It was the first Trek episode I saw that really creeped me out! Same for Macrocosm.

And I'll add my name to the list of people that like 'These Are The Voyages'. I never saw it as the last episode of Enterprise, but as the last episode of that era of Star Trek. It closed the era that started with 'Encounter at Farpoint' and was a nice throwback to TNG. I for one loved seeing Riker pop up as Chef.
 
Hear hear! I wasn't that invested in it, but I certainly don't see it as the travesty it's painted to be. I thought the Riker frame gave the show context. It allowed the NX-01 to be "remembered" during a show that didn't even know it EXISTED. I never thought of it as the Berman bookend, but that's absolutely right.

And the ending made me cry. (Not like that. Shut up haters.)

The Search for Spock is one of my favorite movies. Probably my favorite that isn't TMP or TWOK (or as I call them "The two headed gods of Star Trek." :) ).

The ending ... dude!!! It's a thing of beauty. When Riker goes, "End Programme," I'm there with Kleenex in hand - OK? - IN HAND!!! ... uncontrollably weeping copious tears. I can't even hear the epilogue stuff, over my sobbing; I'm trying so hard to control myself. "It's just a TV show ..." yes, I know ... how well I know. But ... that's not the way it feels. Not right then, at any rate. How can I describe it? I know it sounds corny, but it's like ... "That's Entertainment!"

I don't think TATV is a bad episode in itself, when judged by ordinary episode standards.
But I can imagine that people were disappointed in it as a series finale. You want to see the entire crew "live" in some heroic last adventure that ties it all up, like we got for TNG, DS9, and VOY. Not a holodeck recreation of what later generations think happened (even though the tie-in to TNG is nice).
Had ENT been allowed its full, 7 year run ... it would've ended quite differently, more than likely. But things happen for a reason. "These Are The Voyages" was simply meant to be.
 
I don't love TATV but when I consider Demons/Terra Prime the finale and understand it was trying to acknowledge the end of an entire 18-year run of trek it is a fairly enjoyable hour.
 
TATV was an abomination, an insult and a slap in the face, even if TPTB might not have intended for it, nevertheless that is what it amounted to. I was there when it happened and I can say that the vast majority of posters in the ENT forum back in the day felt like I felt. To add insult to injury, TNG is one of my least favourite Treks, and Riker and Troi my least favourite characters on that show (well, them and Wesley). I've never felt such anger towards how a TV show ended before or since.

But on topic, count me among those who really like TMP, uniforms notwithstanding. Yes, it was slow at times but I kinda liked that, and the spectacular visuals and that it was "cerebral", for lack of a better word. And Jerry Goldsmith's score remains outstanding.
 
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But on topic, count me among those who really like TMP, uniforms notwithstanding. Yes, it was slow at times but I kinda liked that, and the spectacular visuals and that it was "cerebral", for lack of a better word. And Jerry Goldsmith's score remains outstanding.
And the uniforms rock. :) Ok, the men's onsies don't. But everything else does. I need to lose my tummy and then I want Kirk and Sulu's short sleeve uniforms.
 
I love Star Trek V. Maybe a lot of it's nostalgia (it was my first Trek movie), but I love how the crew are old friends who have no lives outside the ship so they end up taking shore leave together. Sybok is a great character, who IMO makes Spock's backstory more understandable. Why would Sarek, who seems like a reasonable guy, be such a dick toward Spock showing some human traits? Oh yeah, his full-blooded firstborn was exiled for rejecting logic and he was afraid of losing Spock too.

Some of the humour is shit, and Scottyhura is weird, but otherwise I love it.
 
I echo the sentiments towards Genesis too. It was the first Trek episode I saw that really creeped me out! Same for Macrocosm..

I enjoyed "Genesis," too. It's ridiculous, but in a fun and campy way. Barclay turns into a spider-monster for Pete's sake. Lord knows none of us are ever going to forget that.

I'll take over-the-top over boring any day . . . .
 
BBC America showed the end of s3 lately, and they all seemed better. The Way To Eden in particular, if you concentrate on dialogue and the situation, and ignore the distracting visual onslaught of Space Hippies.

Season two of Next Gen has always been my favorite, but even season one gets better than we remember it. I slice Next Gen right down the middle... first half good, second half somnambulistic.

Masks, its problem was that it was magic, not SF.
 
Ferengi are a very good thing about DS9. People rhapsodize about how deep it is, and I guess for Star Trek, yeah, but, it's not like THAT great as far as literature/filmed entertainment goes. But the Ferengi parody of human foibles, plus Quarks acerbic comments about the Federation's holier-than-thouness -- those, to me, are what make DS9 a different show than the other Treks. Which I love btw.

Now, as to eps . . . THE WAY TO EDEN. I love it. Since I do, I can justify it with rationality and argument. But I shan't do so here. I'll just say I love it.
 
I like Move Along Home. I even stole the idea for a D&D adventure.

Gambit is one of my absolute favorite TNG episodes. It unfortunately suffers from a weak conclusion but that has never ruined the rest if the episode for me. It's the episode with the most active players in the plot and the one that departs most from formula.
 
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"Code of Honour", really not all that bad.....

Nah, just kidding, it's utter garbage, I rewatched it the other day for what i believe was my third go round, the first in fifteen years. It's mindbogglingly awful

On the other hand Ive never got the hate directed at "Skin of Evil"
 
Code of Honour for me falls into the same category as Live and Let Die. The Bond film whereby all the blacks are the drug barons. There's no willful attempt to be racist but they kinda of just sleep walk into doing that. Other than the obvious issue, Code of Honour is a typical first season episode for me.
 
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