Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
Not a bad idea--I'd love to see Peter Weller take a crack at the role.
Not a bad idea--I'd love to see Peter Weller take a crack at the role.
Actors/characters/plots/ships/etc. you want to see in Star Trek XII?
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Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
Interesting idea. I could see Jeffrey Donovan playing Gary Seven. No more time travel stuff though, they need to take a long break from that. I would like to see Trek XII set a few years after the current film, and have no mention of any sort of temporal shenanigans whatsoever.
Interesting idea. I could see Jeffrey Donovan playing Gary Seven. No more time travel stuff though, they need to take a long break from that. I would like to see Trek XII set a few years after the current film, and have no mention of any sort of temporal shenanigans whatsoever.
Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
My problem with the idea is that it is familiar. It's not taking the new timeline anywhere new.
A good idea for what should happen next would be one we couldn't guess in a million years.
My problem with the idea is that it is familiar. It's not taking the new timeline anywhere new.
A good idea for what should happen next would be one we couldn't guess in a million years.
Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
Anything involving Gary Seven would have to include time travel. There's a downside.
However, I've always liked the character; he was great in The Eugenics Wars duology. I agree Peter Weller would be a pretty good choice, too.
The trick would be in finding a storyline where he and Kirk are working at cross-purposes, yet both (apparently) for the greater good.
Anything involving Gary Seven would have to include time travel. There's a downside.
However, I've always liked the character; he was great in The Eugenics Wars duology. I agree Peter Weller would be a pretty good choice, too.
The trick would be in finding a storyline where he and Kirk are working at cross-purposes, yet both (apparently) for the greater good.
Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
Seven.. of Nine?
YES.
Seven.. of Nine?
YES.
Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
I'm not sure about that. Gary Seven I think is more than just a ordinary human. I could see him having a expanded lifespan. I have also been fond of the idea of a second earth idea. Maybe he is from one of those earthlike planets we saw on TOS were the people seem to have developed a almost idential culture to those of us on earth.
Jason
I'm not sure about that. Gary Seven I think is more than just a ordinary human. I could see him having a expanded lifespan. I have also been fond of the idea of a second earth idea. Maybe he is from one of those earthlike planets we saw on TOS were the people seem to have developed a almost idential culture to those of us on earth.
Jason
Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
If they use Gary Seven, here is the perfect actor to play him. The guy looks so much like Robert Lansing I'd swear they were related (they're not, AFAIK).
Terry Serpico
If they use Gary Seven, here is the perfect actor to play him. The guy looks so much like Robert Lansing I'd swear they were related (they're not, AFAIK).
Terry Serpico
Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
Before I start, I need to warn everyone that I will be SPOILING the semi-professional Trek episode Star Trek: Of Gods and Men.
Still here? OK.
Before I start, I need to warn everyone that I will be SPOILING the semi-professional Trek episode Star Trek: Of Gods and Men.
Still here? OK.
The story of OGAM is that Charlie Evans returns and goes through the Guardian of Forever to prevent Kirk from being born. The universe is of course hugely different, and it's up to Uhura, Chekov and others to undo what's happened and get the timeline straightened out.
Now, about halfway into OGAM, Gary Mitchell appears and actually cooperates with Charlie. There was a confrontation between all sides at the Guardian of Forever. Uhura pleads to Charlie (by singing, I swear) to join the side of the angels.
It works. He tangles with Mitchell and (if I remember correctly) they kind of cancel each other out and after a massive space battle above the planet, everything goes back to normal.
The sad thing about this is that Mitchell brings a spellbound Janice Rand with him as sort of a momento. I would really have liked to see that played out a bit differently.
If I could change that, when Mitchell appears with Rand under his control, I thought that Charlie would turn to the other side if Mitchell threatened Rand, saying she was a weak human whose life could be snuffed out like a candle in the wind.
Charlie gets more and more agitated as Mitchell's threats get more and more menacing. Charlie remembers he was fond of Rand and steps in before Mitchell can kill Rand. Then you've got your mega-battle that gives Charlie a decent reason to join the other side.
Don't get me wrong. I greatly enjoyed the production, which starred actors in other roles than we were used to. I just would have enjoyed it even more if they had a more plausible reason for that turn in events.
Now, about halfway into OGAM, Gary Mitchell appears and actually cooperates with Charlie. There was a confrontation between all sides at the Guardian of Forever. Uhura pleads to Charlie (by singing, I swear) to join the side of the angels.
It works. He tangles with Mitchell and (if I remember correctly) they kind of cancel each other out and after a massive space battle above the planet, everything goes back to normal.
The sad thing about this is that Mitchell brings a spellbound Janice Rand with him as sort of a momento. I would really have liked to see that played out a bit differently.
If I could change that, when Mitchell appears with Rand under his control, I thought that Charlie would turn to the other side if Mitchell threatened Rand, saying she was a weak human whose life could be snuffed out like a candle in the wind.
Charlie gets more and more agitated as Mitchell's threats get more and more menacing. Charlie remembers he was fond of Rand and steps in before Mitchell can kill Rand. Then you've got your mega-battle that gives Charlie a decent reason to join the other side.
Don't get me wrong. I greatly enjoyed the production, which starred actors in other roles than we were used to. I just would have enjoyed it even more if they had a more plausible reason for that turn in events.
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Re: How about Gary Seven and the aliens he works for as a villian?
maybe not gary seven himself but rather the aliens he is working for.
the shift in the timelines might be enough that they decide to reveal themselves earlier then they planned in this new branch time line.
maybe they would search out prime spock to question him.
maybe not gary seven himself but rather the aliens he is working for.
the shift in the timelines might be enough that they decide to reveal themselves earlier then they planned in this new branch time line.
maybe they would search out prime spock to question him.
Re: Trek sequel should be Intergalactic War
aww... yeah, he likes the idea of Mirror-Kirk. I want Prime Kirk though. call me an evil plot speculator!
aww... yeah, he likes the idea of Mirror-Kirk. I want Prime Kirk though. call me an evil plot speculator!
Re: Trek sequel should be Intergalactic War
If they have balls, they'll go with something more science-fiction-y and make it just as amazing as anything with the easy villain/battles.
Besides, we saw them hold their own against a bad guy, now let's see if they have what it takes to really be on that bridge. Boldly go to explore strange new worlds indeed.
I'm totally with the original poster's enthusiasm for big stakes and amazing effects. I think it's natural...the movie rocked, the team did a great job, let's let'em loose in an all-out extravaganza...
War is great in the movies, and action is great on screen, but what does Star Trek dare say about it today? Is Trek relevant in war discussion, given how it aggrandizes war and fetish-izes sacrifice...it's darn near Klingon in it.
P.S. It would be a wet dream for me as well to see Klingons and Federation and Romulans and Tholians at it as well. Throw in the Sheliak and Cardassians too. "Captain" Chekov's holodeck fantasy in a $4 million dollar deleted scene?
If they have balls, they'll go with something more science-fiction-y and make it just as amazing as anything with the easy villain/battles.
Besides, we saw them hold their own against a bad guy, now let's see if they have what it takes to really be on that bridge. Boldly go to explore strange new worlds indeed.
I'm totally with the original poster's enthusiasm for big stakes and amazing effects. I think it's natural...the movie rocked, the team did a great job, let's let'em loose in an all-out extravaganza...
War is great in the movies, and action is great on screen, but what does Star Trek dare say about it today? Is Trek relevant in war discussion, given how it aggrandizes war and fetish-izes sacrifice...it's darn near Klingon in it.
P.S. It would be a wet dream for me as well to see Klingons and Federation and Romulans and Tholians at it as well. Throw in the Sheliak and Cardassians too. "Captain" Chekov's holodeck fantasy in a $4 million dollar deleted scene?
Re: Trek sequel should be Intergalactic War
that's me. and I stand by my speculation
Mercy me... I confess this might quite possibly be my nightmare scenario for the sequel
It might very well be successful financially, but it's sooooo gimmicky, and it would guarantee another plot as convoluted as the one in the current movie.
You are an evil genius of plot speculation
that's me. and I stand by my speculation
Re: Trek sequel should be Intergalactic War
That will take off about as well as a movie about Sulu as captain of the Excelsior. . . . Witch, btw, I think would have been a great basis for some movies.
That will take off about as well as a movie about Sulu as captain of the Excelsior. . . . Witch, btw, I think would have been a great basis for some movies.
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