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A James Bond Fan Reviews the Franchise

But my main lament has always been that we never got to see how well Lazenby might have hit his stride with a third movie.

There was potential in Lazenby, no doubt. It's a shame he destroyed his own career.


Star Wars: Episode 1.5: Moonraker (*)

James Bond.... IN SPACE! :rolleyes:

Talk about a drop in quality. What are all the problems with this movie? Let's count them shall we?

Problem #1: Bond
Bond's characterization in this movie is way off. There is absolutely none of the cold, brutal, ruthless Bond anywhere. Whenever he kills somebody he does it because he has to for some reason - whether that be for self-defense or to complete a part of the mission. In any other movie, he would seek revenge for the murder of Corinne. But here, he doesn't even find out that she's dead. On top of that, we're starting to get into the area of the franchise where they appear to be deliberately making no attempt to conceal Bond's identity. Everywhere he goes, everyone instantly knows who he is. And on top of that, Bond is becoming ridiculously intelligent. Seriously, how many languages does this man speak? And how can he know so much about such a rare flower?

Problem #2: Drax
I thought Stromberg was a weak villian. Drax puts him to shame. Others have said that Largo from Thunderball was the worst Bond villian. Well, Largo is light-years ahead of Drax. There is absolutely nothing either meancing or threatening about this character. In fact, there's nothing even remotely interesting about him. Maybe that is because the actor is literally phoning his performance in to the point where it is laughable. Maybe it is because of the writing. I don't know, but whatever the reason, Drax is not a worthy villian for Bond. Hell, I have a hard time believeing that Jaws' girlfriend would have difficulty kicking his ass.

Problem #3: The Story
I commented on how Live and Let Die was clearly cashing in on the blaxploitation genre. Others have talked about how The Man with the Golden Gun uses the Kung-Fu craze and how The Spy Who Loves Me rips off Jaws. But, WOW! - can we say "attempts to cash in on the success of Star Wars"? They're not even trying to hide the fact in this movie. Additionally, while I admit that I haven't read the novels, I do know a little about the plot of the novel Moonraker since I have friends who have read them. All I can say, based on the little I do know about the plot, is that that story sounds much, much more interesting.

Also, who thought that a spy movie would be the perfect chance to showcase a space battle with laser weapons? In a franchise where the only truly unbelieveable thing was Solitaire's quasi-supernatural abilities in Live and Let Die, we now literally have Space Marines, directed enegry weapons, space stations and hand-to-hand space combat. The last movie bit the shark, and this movie jumps it.

Problem #4: The Comedy
Just as they weren't trying to hid the Star Wars influence, they also aren't trying to hid the fact that comedy is taking the lead over seriousness. Humor prevades this entire movie. Every single action sequence has comedic bits intercut with them, jokes are just thrown out for the sake of throwing them out and we even have pigeons doing double-takes for laughs. :wtf: Even Jaws doesn't escape the humor. While he was certainly a humorous character in The Spy Who Loved Me, he was also a menacing one as well. Here, he's clearly intended to be the comic relief. What a waste of a great character.

Also, while I think that Jaws' romance with his girlfriend was supposed to humorous, it just left me asking "What's the point?".

The Good:
So, with all these major problems, why did I give the movie one star instead of zero? Well, it does have some good bits. 1.) It is good to see the continuing trust between M and Bond when the Minister of Defense instructs M to reassign Bond and instead M sticks with him. 2.) The music is quite good. 3.) Lois Chiles is the most attractive Bond Girl yet. :drool::drool:

That's pretty much it.


So, Diamonds are Forever is no longer the worst film thus far.

That's Amore: 28
Bond slept with Corinne Dufour, Manuela, and Holly Goodhead.

Body Count: 143 (+12)
 
^ I'd agree mostly with your review but I would have given it its sole star for the genuinely impressive opening sequence. The rest is total pants.

IIRC, TSWLM says at the end that Bond will be back in For Your Eyes Only but on the back of Star Wars, they changed plans and shot Moonraker instead. Sad.
 
^ The opening sequence was quite good, until the end of it. Having Jaws fall into a circus tent is just another example of the misplaced humor.
 
Well, what's there to say? Moonraker is, alongside The Spy Who Loved Me, my favourite film in the series. Both films have their faults, but there is no such thing as a perfect Bond film. In the case of Moonraker, yes, I'll concede there are a few too many lapses into juvenile humour (mostly involving Jaws's girlfriend.) But these aren't anything to condemn the whole movie over. Everything else is fantastic.

Drax is the best Bond villain ever. Michel Lonsdale plays him with such a controlled sense of menace.

The Bond films are largely formulaic: about big, outrageous ideas, larger than life villains with preposterous plots for world domination, and a smooth, debonair superspy who travels to exotic locations to foil them. All shot with a lot of colour, class and humour. Moonraker delivers on all counts, and could really be called the absolutely perfect iteration of the formula - and illustrates the producers' desire to go bigger and better each time.

A great set of locations: a French Chateau relocated to California, Venice, Rio, the Amazon, and finally outer space!

The space marines?: pah! What's the problem there? It's no more far-fetched than the frogmen who parachute into the sea in Thunderball, or the Ninjas in You Only Live Twice - simply an convenient army appropriate to the setting, who turn up to fight the bad guys while Bond foils the villain.

You've said this is the movie where Bond "jumps the shark" - as I understand it, "jumping the shark" means the point when the series reaches its peak, after which it will be all downhill. So I'd agree, because Bond never hits these heights again. After Moonraker, only Octopussy, and parts of The Living Daylights and GoldenEye really feel like proper Bond films to me.
 
Moonraker is certainly campy but i think its superior to Diamonds Are Forever. Drax is an improvement over Stromberg, but not by much. he's certainly more reserved in his actions. Stronberg and Drax could have both used a little fleshing out. exactly why are they obsessed with the conquest of space/the ocean?

Lois Chiles is attractive, no question there, but the most attractive Bond Girl yet? hardly. as for Bond's knowledge of a rare flower, well i don't see how that's any different from his knowledge of butterflies as seen in OHMSS. as for the pigeon double take...ugh. sure, the film has its problems but i still like it a great deal.
 
as I understand it, "jumping the shark" means the point when the series reaches its peak, after which it will be all downhill.
No, jumping the shark isn't the point at which a series reaches its peak. It's the point at which a previously cool series does something so silly that the series loses its cool factor.
 
Not according to Jon Hein who coined the term and invented the "Jump the Shark" website.
It's the point at which things go downhill, yes, but the actual "jump the shark" moment isn't a peak in terms of a high point in quality - it's the point at which you realize a series' best days are behind it. Fonzie jumping the shark wasn't Happy Days at its peak - it was something really dumb that diminished a heretofore cool character.
 
Well, I'm not going to argue with you about it. (Although, you know, go and look at the title on the Jump the Shark website...) But if your definition of "jump the shark" is the correct one, then obviously it doesn't apply to Moonraker.
 
Ah yes, Moonraker...
the first real whipping boy of the series.

Yes, the humor is goofy and the whole thing is way over the top. And for a long time, I viewed it as quite cringeworthy.

But over the years I've come to realize that--God help me--
it's damn entertaining. More that TMWTGG and some others.

I can go along with the silliness and have a good time with Moonraker more than I can with the truly awful Diamonds are Forever. And the later silliness of Die Another Day is just as bad, yet not as much fun... just bad.

Plus, Moonraker's got quality. Like Cubby always wanted, you see all the money spent right up on the screen. The locales, the effects, the music, the photography, all top notch production quality.

And yeah... it's a Star Wars rip-off, riding that bandwagon.
But it's just as much about NASA's space shuttle. The movie was to coincide with the first launch of the shuttle, but Moonraker launched first! All the shuttle stuff was still fiction at that point because the shuttle hadn't been into space yet. So I see Moonraker as more Bond cutting edge with the shuttle rather than a Star Wars rip-off.

And even then... the shuttle stuff isn't too fantastic.
Shuttles do fly in orbit, dock with stations, astronauts EVA, it's not THAT unbelievable. A lot of YOLT space stuff was more fantasy than Moonraker's.

Plus... I always thought Hugo Drax was damn cool for a villain. His munificence is boundless.

Sooooo.... yeah Moonraker is silly wacky, but thumbs up from me. Even I can't believe it.
 
I'd like them see them properly adapt the original Moonraker novel with Daniel Craig. Give it another name if they have to.

The music in Moonraker is good. But from here on Moore seems more to be playing his old role, Simon Templar The Saint rather than 007. Indeed whenever I read a Saint book or novel (and I've probably read near all of them) I can't help but picture Roger Moore.

Yes, the humour in this film is waay overdone.
 
MOONRAKER is a total cash-in on STAR WARS (and not a very good one, either), but at least it manages to hold onto a sense of fun for most of the running time. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER certainly struggled to do that. Both films have better John Barry scores than they deserve, too.
 
While I certainly don't rank it as a good Bond film, I don't mind Moonraker too much. It's goofy as hell, but it's goofy fun much of the time. There are about half a dozen Bond films I rank below it. The absolute nadir of the series in my opinion is A View to a Kill.
 
. . . Lois Chiles is the most attractive Bond Girl yet. :drool::drool:
Attractive? Like a department-store mannequin, maybe. And she had the personality of a potato chip. Another model who couldn't act her way out of a garbage bag.

Lois Chiles is attractive, no question there, but the most attractive Bond Girl yet? hardly.

Well, YMMV. For me, :drool: :adore:

The space marines?: pah! What's the problem there? It's no more far-fetched than the frogmen who parachute into the sea in Thunderball, or the Ninjas in You Only Live Twice.

But Frogmen and Ninjas actually exist. Space Marines, not so much.

as I understand it, "jumping the shark" means the point when the series reaches its peak, after which it will be all downhill.
No, jumping the shark isn't the point at which a series reaches its peak. It's the point at which a previously cool series does something so silly that the series loses its cool factor.

I don't know if it's the correct definition, but Out Of My Vulcan Mind's one is the one I was thinking of when I wrote that.
 
Cutting to the chase, the only Bond films I have in my dvd library are:

Dr. No
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
The Spy Who Loved Me
Casino Royale

I'm weighing about whether or not to add The Living Daylights.
 
I have the Special Edition box set with all the films from Dr. No through to Casino Royale. I picked it up for a song when it was on a great special. I had a marathon viewing of all the films earlier this year, re-watching many of the films for the first time in many a moon. 'Twas awesome. I'm still making my way through the commentary tracks and special features.
 
In a franchise where the only truly unbelieveable thing was Solitaire's quasi-supernatural abilities in Live and Let Die, we now literally have Space Marines, directed enegry weapons, space stations and hand-to-hand space combat. The last movie bit the shark, and this movie jumps it.

I'm sorry you find the notion of a hollowed out volcano super base, a spacecraft that takes off and lands from said volcono base, a spacecraft that eats other space craft...believable? Not to mention the orbiting super laser in Diamonds, and the oil tanker that eats submarines and the secret base on the bottom of the ocean?

Heck one could even go back as far as Dr No and suggest No's nuclear powered base stretches credulity somewhat..

Obviously I wouldn't ever suggest that Moonraker was remotely believable in itself! But it's fun, fast paced, has a good pre title sequence, an ok villain, and ok girl, a great soundtrack (all films set in space should have John Barry soundtracks for me!) and some nice set pieces. Not the greatest Bond but far from the worst (one thing it isn't is dull!)

And on the subject of dull, the third Bond film notion breaks down with Brosnan given that The World is Not Enough is his worst...yes that's right, his worst. Die Another Day is way better!

Just want to backtrack a ways because I was watching Live and Let Die and something always bugs me...who slipped 007 the Queen of Cups card that identifies Rosie as a double agent?
 
Cutting to the chase, the only Bond films I have in my dvd library are:

Dr. No
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
The Spy Who Loved Me
Casino Royale

I'm weighing about whether or not to add The Living Daylights.

All DVD libraries should feature The Living Daylights :techman:
 
You've said this is the movie where Bond "jumps the shark" - as I understand it, "jumping the shark" means the point when the series reaches its peak, after which it will be all downhill. So I'd agree, because Bond never hits these heights again. After Moonraker, only Octopussy, and parts of The Living Daylights and GoldenEye really feel like proper Bond films to me.

Actually, Admiral Shran didn't say that, I said it as a joke earlier, in response to his reference to Jaws biting the shark. :p
 
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