A defence of Kirk's 'Why are you talking to me, man?'
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And I thought The Wormhole was off the deep end with the 'zero' thing.
That whole "hiding the giant robots from my parents" scene was hilarious. The disparity was what made the line funny.
Same thing here, but to a different effect. We're used to a mature Kirk, a captain who always needs to seem professional as a representative of the Federation. Now we're seeing him back when he was a drunk teenager. If it's not slightly jarring, the writers have failed.
I can understand people being concerned about these writers suitability for Star Trek. But seeing the use of a colloquialism by a youth as any sort of substantiation for that concern? That's just desperately trying to justify a pre-decided dislike of the movie.
In fact, online complaints have led to the ADR replacement of Kirk's line in post.
The line will now be delivereded as "Why are you talking to me, Herbert?"
It was hoped that this substitution would satisfy the fans.
Unfortunately, in doing so the producers tripped over a bit of continuity in "The Way To Eden" where Spock has to explain the meaning of the word to Kirk.
Since the news of this naked assault on canon has leaked out, four new anti-Abrams petitions have been launched online: three calling for total excision of the scene and one demanding that Bruce Greenwood be digitally replaced by CG'd file footage of Heath Ledger's audition tape for "The Dark Knight."
The line will now be delivereded as "Why are you talking to me, Herbert?"
It was hoped that this substitution would satisfy the fans.
Unfortunately, in doing so the producers tripped over a bit of continuity in "The Way To Eden" where Spock has to explain the meaning of the word to Kirk.
Since the news of this naked assault on canon has leaked out, four new anti-Abrams petitions have been launched online: three calling for total excision of the scene and one demanding that Bruce Greenwood be digitally replaced by CG'd file footage of Heath Ledger's audition tape for "The Dark Knight."
Rii
Rear Admiral
Don't have any issues with the line, but I wouldn't go that far.
The above is clumsy in that Uhura's line is obviously structured to lead in to Kirk's response rather than being something someone would actually say. It also seems unnecessarily crass, although it's possible that could be justified in context.
I have not seen Transformers and have no plans to do so (though neither am I ruling it out.) There are at least a couple of generations who have grown up with Transformers toys and Transformers on TV, but those generations are not mine.
As I explained here, however, I am not the least bit bothered about this particular line; I think it's entirely appropriate to the situation in which it is spoken. Whether or not I am sane is a matter for another discussion.
The line is now "Frak off you frakking motherfrakker!" They know the sci-fi nerd LOVES the "futuristic" fake swearing.
I would, and did.
This guy is my new hero. I salute you, sir.
Same here
Rii
Rear Admiral
Based on what? The same snippets of dialogue that some are, apparently prematurely, condemning them for?
Transformers?
THIS! IS! THE INTERNET! Of course people are going to bash a movie based on a few seconds of dialouge, what did you expect people to do form a mutual appreciation society.
Yeah....I didn't think the writing in Transformers was very good... and that's a whole MOVIE'S worth of work to base my opinion on.
Not just one line.
They just make me nervous for their ability to write a satisfying script.
As for the people who say...wait to watch the movie before complaining....
I offer this rejoinder....wait before you watch the movie before you're ready to start high-fiving everyone.
People who have objections to what's going on are not just idiots to look down on or pathetic myopic fools. Some of them are well-reasoned and logical.
Just as I'm sure you feel that defending this as yet unseen film to the death is well-reasoned and logical.
Not just one line.
They just make me nervous for their ability to write a satisfying script.
As for the people who say...wait to watch the movie before complaining....
I offer this rejoinder....wait before you watch the movie before you're ready to start high-fiving everyone.
People who have objections to what's going on are not just idiots to look down on or pathetic myopic fools. Some of them are well-reasoned and logical.
Just as I'm sure you feel that defending this as yet unseen film to the death is well-reasoned and logical.
I agree on Transformers... but they also wrote Mission Impossible III, and I rather liked that one. Until this movie proves me wrong, I'm gonna chalk up Transformers to two words - Michael Bay.
Um, no.
See I happen to be a Star Trek fan. I am excited about there being a
Star Trek movie coming out, it looks cool and there hasn't been a Trek
to dissapoint me yet, hence I am a fan.
I have yet to see any well-reasoned logic in the arguments against the film.
A bunch of whining and nitpicking yes. I don't see how one could criticize
people for being excited about a new Star Trek movie as... Star Trek fans.
I can see how naysayers who claim to be Star Trek fans are criticized...
even non-Trek fans I know who have heard about some of the things "fans"
are saying think it's illogical... "Aren't they Star Trek fans?".
Well I am, so I will be excited for and think this film looks great.
Because it's kind of normal and logical to not be depressed or pissed
off about a movie of my favorite franchise being made.
And will continue to find it utterly illogical that people could already have
judged it "bad" or be "scared" about it.
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