A ‘Star Wars’ Movie Directed by a Woman Is ‘Absolutely’ Happening, Vows Kathleen Kennedy

[JD]

The rebels are not terrorists. They were soldiers in a just war against the Empire.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Alliance

All terrorists see themselves a soldier in a just war against whoever their attacks are targeting.
A lot of people treat being a fictional terrorist as automatically being a bad guy, but if the nation you are opposing is evil, then you can be a good guy terrorist. The Rebels in Star Wars, the New Caprica resistance in Battlestar Galactica ,and the Bajoran Resistan in DS9 are perfect examples of this.

 

[Spot261]

Given what we see on screen, the empire is basically pure evil, and just exists to feed Palpatine's ego. It provides nothing for its own people (in fact it blows them up randomly) and they have no redeeming qualities. With that in mind, the rebels are obviously on the right side.

However, if the movie added a tiny bit more nuance... they could easily be about honorable Stormtroopers defending law and order against anarchists.

We are shown the stormtroopers (at least the clones) as being honourable, prior to order 66. The difference is one of perspective, when they are "good guys" their aggression is heroism, their single mindedness is professionalism.

The real world difference between a hero and a villain, a terrorist and a freedom fighter, is also one of perspective. Very few people in this world base their life choices around being "evil" and the same is true in SW. People work their way through life and deal with what is in front of them, forming relationships, making decisions, formulating or absorbing beliefs. Those beliefs are frequently in utter contradiction to those held by others but in almost every case (with the odd exception) they do not set out to be "evil".

 

[Turtletrekker]

I just wish people would stop giving the bigoted troll the attention he's so obviously craves. Just ignore him. Not necessarily "put him on ignore", just scroll past his ramblings without reading or commenting on them. Honestly, at this point, he's already said everything he's ever going to say and he's going to keep saying it over and over and over as long as it gets encouraged.

 

[Armus]

All terrorists see themselves a soldier in a just war against whoever their attacks are targeting.
A lot of people treat being a fictional terrorist as automatically being a bad guy, but if the nation you are opposing is evil, then you can be a good guy terrorist. The Rebels in Star Wars, the New Caprica resistance in Battlestar Galactica ,and the Bajoran Resistan in DS9 are perfect examples of this.

I honestly can't think of any real life examples of "good guy terrorists".

On DS9 the Bajorans were forced into terrorism. As Major Kira said the resistance had to spare no target or their war against the Cardassians would have failed. The Cardassians had no moral or legal claim to Bajor and terrorism was the only way to get them out.

In the original Star Wars trilogy the major battles between the Rebels and The Empire were seige attacks between soldiers. The Rebels laid seige to the Death Star, The Empire laid seige to The Rebel Base on Hoth, The Rebels seiged The Endor base and Death Star II. Traditional seige warfare between military targets and fair game.

 

[crookeddy]

I honestly can't think of any real life examples of "good guy terrorists"

Partisans in WW2?

 

[crookeddy]

I just wish people would stop giving the bigoted troll the attention he's so obviously craves. Just ignore him. Not necessarily "put him on ignore", just scroll past his ramblings without reading or commenting on them. Honestly, at this point, he's already said everything he's ever going to say and he's going to keep saying it over and over and over as long as it gets encouraged.

What bigoted troll?

 

[Armus]

Partisans in WW2?

That may be a perfect example of justified terrorism. My WWII knowledge is pretty leaky.

 

[Jayson1]

How on earth did she win a bafta? For bring Palpatine back?

Someone pulling strings I would guess. Isn't that how all rewards are handed out? I mean when is the last time the actual best movie won a OSCAR? Hell the best movie of 1989 didn't even get nominated in "Do The Right Thing." "Forrest Gump" beat both "Pulp Fiction' and "Shawshank Redemption." I figure she has been around long enough and has earned enough money for Disney so why not give it to her.


Jason

 

[Jayson1]

I honestly can't think of any real life examples of "good guy terrorists".

On DS9 the Bajorans were forced into terrorism. As Major Kira said the resistance had to spare no target or their war against the Cardassians would have failed. The Cardassians had no moral or legal claim to Bajor and terrorism was the only way to get them out.

In the original Star Wars trilogy the major battles between the Rebels and The Empire were seige attacks between soldiers. The Rebels laid seige to the Death Star, The Empire laid seige to The Rebel Base on Hoth, The Rebels seiged The Endor base and Death Star II. Traditional seige warfare between military targets and fair game.

When you win you get to be freedom fighters. When you loose you get to be terrorist. Granted terrorism is not a cause. It is a tactic. Which is why I hated the , war on terror label. It basically means your allowing never ending war because you don't have specific bad guys your going after. It's basically anyone you want to put under that label.


Jason

 

[Qonundrum]

Let's first put the other "in the form of a question" meme of "When's the next time they're ever going to make one?" aside...

Anyone who understands the lore and mythos and gives the time to make a halfway decent script - who cares when women and men have directed movies, the former increasingly so, since the late 1800s and it's no longer an issue equated to that of "We forbid anyone who has innies from directing fictional stuff", which sure as heck isn't the case in this day and age. This is the 21st century that women are still apparently being forbade to direct movies. Who keeps suggesting they are or anyone is?

Everyone is different and unique, no matter what the MBTI tries to lump groupings of people into. If they have the aptitude, give 'em a chance. It's not that big a deal. Especially if they have a proper, consistent narrative. Again, 21st century vs 19th and all...

P.S. "The Last Jedi" was easily the most satisfying ST episode with the most potential.

 

[BillJ]

A lot of people treat being a fictional terrorist as automatically being a bad guy, but if the nation you are opposing is evil, then you can be a good guy terrorist. The Rebels in Star Wars, the New Caprica resistance in Battlestar Galactica ,and the Bajoran Resistan in DS9 are perfect examples of this.

I'm sure if you're the spouse or parent of an Imperial worker on the Death Star, or a Cardassian killed on Bajor, you don't see the Rebels or Bajorans as anything other than terrorists. It is all about perspective.

 

[BillJ]

Why diversity is so important, and it was a black man who helped make Star Wars the hit that it was...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/f...rs-secret-weapon-why-was-he-forgotten-1275211

A March 1989 article in Premiere titled "Hollywood's Dirty Little Secret: Why There Aren't Any Black Executives" noted that Boone, though a former president of Fox, wasn't even mentioned in a recent history of the studio. "No one says it out loud, but race is a dirty little secret in Hollywood power politics," the article stated, noting that "there are still no black executives with the power to greenlight a project."

 

[ichab]

As long as the movie is good I don't care what color or race the director is.

This.

 

[JD]

Partisans in WW2?

Wouldn't the American Colonists in the early days of the Revolution be considered terrorists?

 

[crookeddy]

Wouldn't the American Colonists in the early days of the Revolution be considered terrorists?

Did they use terror tactics? (I actually don't know)

 

[Awesome Possum]

Did they use terror tactics? (I actually don't know)

Privateer attacks on British ships would probably count. By most modern standards, the colonial army would be considered terrorists or insurgents by the British.

 

[fireproof78]

Privateer attacks on British ships would probably count. By most modern standards, the colonial army would be considered terrorists or insurgents by the British.

Hence the reason why its called the "War of the Insurrection" across the pond.

Wouldn't the American Colonists in the early days of the Revolution be considered terrorists?

They would, indeed. Their tactics were unconventional and unorthodox by the standards of the British army.

 

[Armus]

Before the war some of the colonists committed acts of mob violence against Royalist officials. I'd call tarring and feathering tax officials an act of terrorism. That's why the founders had a healthy fear of pure democracy and mob rule. The people, John Adams wrote, can be just as tyrannical as the King.

 

[Reverend]

Wouldn't the American Colonists in the early days of the Revolution be considered terrorists?

Privateer attacks on British ships would probably count. By most modern standards, the colonial army would be considered terrorists or insurgents by the British.

I think the term "good guy terrorist" is a bit too much of an over-simplification. Nobody that engages in guerrilla tactics against soft targets is a "good guy", no matter the cause. Doesn't mean it isn't necessary or unavoidable in certain scenarios, but let's not pretend war of any kind isn't an inherently grubby affair.

Also the line between freedom fighter and terrorist may be very VERY blurry, but it's still there. Terrorists tend to be a lot less discriminate about their targets, indeed one of the hallmarks is deliberately seeming maximum collateral damage, hence: the "terror" part.
I'm always suspicious of anyone that claims a war to be a righteous affair from any perspective. It's always an abominable tragedy and to quote Erasmus: "War is delightful to those who have had no experience of it."

For clarity; I grew up on a British army camp during The Troubles, when things were blowing up every other week, so I have some peripheral experience in the matter.

 

[JD]

Oh, of course everything you said is very true in real life, when talking about "good guy terrorists" I was only talking about in fiction like DS9 and BSG.