A ‘Star Wars’ Movie Directed by a Woman Is ‘Absolutely’ Happening, Vows Kathleen Kennedy

[Reverend]

Oh, of course everything you said is very true in real life, when talking about "good guy terrorists" I was only talking about in fiction like DS9 and BSG.

It still applies. Both of those shows were deliberately designed to be morally ambiguous at points.
Part of Kira's backstory is that she's not a "good guy". She's ruthless, motivated by things like hatred and revenge, and is willing to contemplate and follow through on things that most other characters wouldn't.

Remember that "good guy" and "protagonist" are not the same thing. Conversely, just because someone is labelled as a terrorist by the enemy, doesn't make it so; and not everyone that styles themselves as "freedom fighter" truly is one. One must separate propaganda from reality.
It's the difference between car bombing a puppet government official that's collaborating with an occupying force, and making sure his kids aren't in the car at the time too.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

It's been a while, but I really remember him losing to Rinzler, getting his light cycle demolished, and being helped off the Grid by Quorra. I do seem to think his background also tends to fit his abilities. Of course, it's been like 8 years since I've watched

No, that's exactly what happened in the movie.

He gets sucked into a computer and he is ready to kick ass during his first fight like he is Russell Crowe in Gladiator. That lack of verisimilitude drives me crazy. There are too many cocky, born-fighter Mary Sues in action movies today. Male or female, I hate it.

Kevin Flynn was like that too in the first movie, otherwise, he'd be dead.

Such a thing has been a part of action movies for years, yet now, you notice it and are pissed off?

The metaphor is ham fisted and not quite accurate, but Lucas has stated that this was indeed his intent. The OT was his metaphor for the Vietnam war.

It was also his commentary on Watergate and the Nixon administration, showing how a nation/civilization can fall due to corruption and apathy.

 

[Armus]

No, that's exactly what happened in the movie.



Kevin Flynn was like that too in the first movie, otherwise, he'd be dead.

Such a thing has been a part of action movies for years, yet now, you notice it and are pissed off?




It was also his commentary on Watergate and the Nixon administration, showing how a nation/civilization can fall due to corruption and apathy.

I like very few movies since 1990. In the script to the original Tron Flynn slowly came to terms with his new surroundings. He was quite taken back. He didn't feel confident until about 15 minutes into his new surroundings. In Tron Legacy there was no sense of shock or awe when Flynn's son was sucked inside a computer. It was totally unbelievable. No vulnerability no journey no reality.

 

[fireproof78]

I like very few movies since 1990. In the script to the original Tron Flynn slowly came to terms with his new surroundings. He was quite taken back. He didn't feel confident until about 15 minutes into his new surroundings. In Tron Legacy there was no sense of shock or awe when Flynn's son was sucked inside a computer. It was totally unbelievable. No vulnerability no journey no reality.

I must have watched a different movie, because there is definitely some shock and surprise. Not as much as the original Tron, but I wouldn't expect it. Sam had grown up with Kevin's stories, so he might not have the same reaction as his dad did at first. But, he definitely was on a journey.

 

[JD]

It's also worth remembering that the early part of the movie established him as a daredevil with some pretty impressive skills before he ended up on The Grid.

 

[Armus]

I must have watched a different movie, because there is definitely some shock and surprise. Not as much as the original Tron, but I wouldn't expect it. Sam had grown up with Kevin's stories, so he might not have the same reaction as his dad did at first. But, he definitely was on a journey.

You must have seen the version that was a big hit. I saw the one that tanked!

 

[fireproof78]

You must have seen the version that was a big hit. I saw the one that tanked!

Nah, it tanked. Sadly because I wanted more.

But, I love the movie all the same.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I like very few movies since 1990. In the script to the original Tron Flynn slowly came to terms with his new surroundings. He was quite taken back. He didn't feel confident until about 15 minutes into his new surroundings. In Tron Legacy there was no sense of shock or awe when Flynn's son was sucked inside a computer. It was totally unbelievable. No vulnerability no journey no reality.

I remember that he had NO clue what was happening in Tron Legacy.. for a very very long time.. from the moment he was placed on the Recognizer to competing in the game grid.. and when Quorra rescued him and their entire journey he was clueless.
gary Sue he was not

 

[fireproof78]

No, he was definitely an everyman type situation.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

I must have watched a different movie, because there is definitely some shock and surprise. Not as much as the original Tron, but I wouldn't expect it. Sam had grown up with Kevin's stories, so he might not have the same reaction as his dad did at first. But, he definitely was on a journey.

Exactly that.

It's also worth remembering that the early part of the movie established him as a daredevil with some pretty impressive skills before he ended up on The Grid.

Again, exactly that; he was more than prepared than his father was for being on the Grid.

You must have seen the version that was a big hit. I saw the one that tanked!

Nah, it tanked. Sadly because I wanted more.

But, I love the movie all the same.

Nah, it tanked. Sadly because I wanted more.

But, I love the movie all the same.

Except, it didn't;

Budget: $170 million
Box office: $400 million

The reason we haven't seen a Tron sequel is because Disney is enamoured with its new toys and has been playing with them for a while.

 

[crookeddy]

MCU and Star Wars have literally 0 to do with Tron 3 not having been made yet.

 

[Armus]

Speaking of toys, I thought the Tron Legacy action figures were awesome and I was tempted to purchase them at Walmart back in 2010/11.

 

[Campe]

MCU and Star Wars have literally 0 to do with Tron 3 not having been made yet.

I would imagine Disney does not want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to compete with itself. There are only so many weeks in a year and box office dollars to spend. I would think that they would want to save those slots for known performers (ie - MCU, Star Wars, live action remakes, Pixar, Avatar, and maybe a regular Disney animated feature — ya know, just for kicks).

So while it might not be the sole factor, I can see why it might be an issue for making a new Tron.

But again, we don’t have all the information.

 

[Ocanain]

Directed by a man or a woman- who cares, just do it well. I’m a believer in meritocracy and equality of opportunity so I’m all for anyone who can bring something special to the directors chair.

Inclusiveness is just intersectional superficiality though so while I’m not supportive of cliched ethnic shaping, I’m also not optimistic about insertions of pointless versatility.

 

[Booji]

 

[Jayson1]

Well we know the next Star Wars movie is going to be directed by Taika Waititi so the wait for a female director it seems is on hold. Granted they are doing the right thing here. Wanting to have a female director makes sense and is fair but also you don't turn down a chance to work with A-listers like Waititi. I bet it's just time before they go after Patti Jenkins yet again. She already once almost worked for Disney seeing as how she was suppose to have done Thor 2. Also keep a eye out for Cate Shortland if that Black Widow movie is as awesome as it looks.


Jason

 

[USS Firefly]

Or they could reboot ANH with only woman directed by a woman

 

[Jayson1]

They will reboot it and all the Classic ones someday. Probably waiting for Lucas to die and a good chunk of Gen X'ers who are still the lifeblood of the fandom. Assuming our Robotic Monkey overlords approve. Our future is going to be very different from our present!

Jason

 

[fireproof78]

Yes, please reboot Star Wars. Star Wars is not so special that it cannot be rebooted like all other classics.

 

[Jayson1]

It is kind of tricky. If you reboot does that mean your going to do another trilogy. I assume also you would see things like getting Yoda in their in their first movie plus everyone knows Vadar is Luke's dad. If I rebooted it I would treat it like a alternate universe like the Kelvinverse movies. Luke and Leia grew up together. Obi-Wan trained them on Tattotine. Vadar comes to kill them they hitch a ride with Han Solo,Chewie and female partner. The female partner has a past. She use to fight with the rebels and thinks Luke and Leia could make a difference. She sends a signal for a place to meet. They go and it's a trap. Darth Vadar captures them. Obi-Wan dies but they manage to escape by talking R2 and Threepio into helping who are just droids aboard Vadar's ship. They escape to where the rebels are at which is Corruscant. Seems the Empire has been planning something and before you know it the Death Star shows up and destroys the planet. But this allows Luke and Leia to meet Vadar who they now know is their dad. Big fight with lighsabers and Vader almost kills all of them. They barely escape. The movie ends with them wondering how they will stop The Empire with this new Death Star weapon.


Jason