5x04 The Time of Angels (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!!)

[Captain Pike]

The episode was ok. Actually, it was quite good, but something about it just falls flat for me. The angels don't seem to be anywhere near as threatening as their last outing, and maybe it was just the mood I was in, but I couldn't maintain my suspension of disbelief - I kept looking at it as though it were a group of people playing "make believe" around a bunch of statues. I know that's what drama essentially is, but it just didn't seem to work for me.

The scene with Amy trapped in the trailer with the angel on a 4 second loop was well done and was quite tense. The idea of the angel absorbing someone's brain and re-animating their consciousness for the purposes of communication (and to lure/taunt their intended victims) was a nice one.

This was certainly better than last week's. I'd rate it just below the season opener for me.

I'll have a clearer picture of how it holds up as entire story after the next installment, but so far, it's just a little bit 'meh'...

 

[Australis]

Thanks a fucking lot!! Now I have an Angel come out of my monitor trying to get me!!!!! Power of the Internet! now you multiplied them by posting there image!

And there's an ep for the next season RIGHT THERE!

 

[Sean_McCormick]

...one the other hand, if she did, the Doctor need to pay her a visit soon

No he doesn't. She gave the packet to him, including the photo of the angel.

How do you think he got "touched by an angel" and sent back to 1979?

All i see there, is one print, she probably still has the negative...and there might be more photos.

 

[Demonland]

By the way, did anyone see the crack anywhere in this episode?

Seeing as it is going to be so prominent in next week's episode, I would be surprised if you wasn't anywhere in the background this week.

Could people please not post SPOILERS for future episodes in the Grading Threads!!!! Some of us don't like to be spoiled and I never watch the trailers for part 2 in a 2 parter. There is a reason the Beeb places them after the credits.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

^^ Now I don't feel so silly for putting spoiler tags in my post.

 

[Starkers]

Well watched it again and still think it's brilliant.In fact I may like it more.

I think someone noted the Bishop reference to Aliens, but there's also the "No offence" "Quite a bit taken actually." bit which may or may not be a riff on Burke/Hicks.

For some reason the sound quality was better on iplayer (plus no annoying Graham Norton idents!) Sorry I know I fall into the deaf old man category on this site but there definitely is some issue re the soundtrack on Who, might not be the show's fault, might just be the signal I watch it on or even my telly, but sometimes dialogue is quite hard to pick out (case in point on the first viewing I didn't hear River say she'd need an air corridor as well.)

Anyway, not sure about the angels not being as scary, I still find them very creepy. In fact I think the deformed near faceless ones are even creepier than the regular variety. Assuming the second part lives up to the first this might well join the pantheaon of great two parters along with the empty child, the impossible planet and Human Nature.

To be honest even if the second part is poor it's also quite clearly the best early season 2 parter we've ever seen by a country mile (whatever that menas) In fact now I'm worrying that Moffat has inverted the norm which means Chibnall's two parter might be the poor relation for once!

 

[Checkmate]

I rewatched it to. Oddly enough, I got the impression that they were basically what UNIT evolves into. I don't know why, but it felt that way. Maybe SomethingBig(tm) happens between then and now that causes them to be absorbed by the Roman Catholic Church? Maybe something to do with the possible vampires and whatnot the previews keep hinting at?

Hell, I dunno.

 

[Captain Shaw]

For some reason the sound quality was better on iplayer (plus no annoying Graham Norton idents!) Sorry I know I fall into the deaf old man category on this site but there definitely is some issue re the soundtrack on Who, might not be the show's fault, might just be the signal I watch it on or even my telly, but sometimes dialogue is quite hard to pick out (case in point on the first viewing I didn't hear River say she'd need an air corridor as well.)

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I was also having trouble hearing some of what was being said.
Glad it was just not me thought I was going deaf.

 

[Samurai8472]

Thanks a fucking lot!! Now I have an Angel come out of my monitor trying to get me!!!!! Power of the Internet! now you multiplied them by posting there image!

And there's an ep for the next season RIGHT THERE!

The Doctor- How'd you stop the angel?

Amy- Screensaver

 

[WillsBabe]

For some reason the sound quality was better on iplayer (plus no annoying Graham Norton idents!) Sorry I know I fall into the deaf old man category on this site but there definitely is some issue re the soundtrack on Who, might not be the show's fault, might just be the signal I watch it on or even my telly, but sometimes dialogue is quite hard to pick out (case in point on the first viewing I didn't hear River say she'd need an air corridor as well.)

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I was also having trouble hearing some of what was being said.
Glad it was just not me thought I was going deaf.

I feel like I catch about 40% of what's being said on Who. I find it incredibly difficult to pick out dialogue. Maybe it's because I'm an old lady.

 

[Cutter John]

Perhaps headphones might help?

 

[Jax]

Another statement by BBC...

The formal response admits the caption was wrong and promises it will not happen again.

The Over the Rainbow trail in Doctor Who should not have played out on Saturday and we apologise to all Doctor Who fans whose enjoyment of the show was disrupted. We recognise the strength of feeling that has been expressed and are taking steps to ensure that this mistake will not happen again.

It is understood that the instruction to run the caption was made by BBC One management and was made without consulting the programme's producers or senior management at BBC Wales.

 

[davejames]

Wow, it would be nice if the American networks made the same promise. We have to deal with annoying ads like that all the time.

 

[AJBryant]

Davejames, I was just thinking the same thing.

Man,I hate those horrid things. Especially the animated ones that seem to take up the entire bottom quarter or more of the screen.

It's bad enough we have network logos all over the effing-place.

 

[Count Zero]

I'm also one of the people struggling with the sound this season. I have a harder time understanding dialogue than in previous seasons. It seems to me that the background sounds are louder (or the other sounds lower in volume) and thus dialogue is harder to hear. It's frustrating.

 

[Rowan Sjet]

I definitely noticed a decrease in the sound quality after first watching on iPlayer, then BBC3.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Wow, it would be nice if the American networks made the same promise. We have to deal with annoying ads like that all the time.

You know other countries can't be truly happy with their socialist TV.

 

[Bones2]

The Over the Rainbow trail in Doctor Who should not have played out on Saturday and we apologise to all Doctor Who fans whose enjoyment of the show was disrupted. We recognise the strength of feeling that has been expressed and are taking steps to ensure that this mistake will not happen again.

This is exactly what the BBC sent back to me as a response to my Doctor Who complaint. The problem? My complaint was about the Daleks. This kind of ineptitude makes me glad I don't pay a TV License.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

^If you're not paying your Licence then you should not be watching any "live" TV. You'll have got lumped in with the other Doctor Who complaints, but to be fair, your "complaint" was idiotic so deserved an automated response.

 

[Starkers]

Well I'm going to give Bones the benefit of the doubt and assume he means his parents/housemates/landlord is/are the ones who pay the licence fee...if this isn't the case however...

I can understand how he got the automatic reply. 5000 complaints about Dr Who and the ident and one about Doctor Who and Daleks, it was bound to happen. You should have complained about Daleks a week earler

Actually in the interests of timy wimyness I think you should email the BBC now and complain about the Van Gough episode