32X13 The Wedding of River Song (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS
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No bloody A, B, C or D.
Here at Trekbbs we add a "0" to everything
I wonder if #9 for SFX's review is a Beatles reference.
1 First, a heads-up. We didn’t get an office preview of this one because, at Steven Moffat’s request, no previews were sent out. Instead, I had to go to the show’s London PR office for a private screening. But one thing’s for sure – if we had had a preview version in our office, I would have watched the whole thing over again straight away. Sadly, I was a little too embarrassed to ask the PR guys if I could do that there and then. Now I wish I’d gone, “Sod professionalism…”
2 The reason I’d want to watch it again straight away is not because it’s massively complicated and you need to rewatch it to make sense of it. In fact, it’s a surprisingly simple tale, though told in a clever way. No, I wanted to watch it again because a) it’s so rich with detail and b) it’s enormous fun.
3 There is technobabble, but that’s largely a red herring
4 The teaser looks like it was more expensive than the rest of the “back six” put together. It’s a visual and conceptual delight
5 It does answer a lot of questions, but some old ones (from Matt Smith’s first series) are still left open, and some new ones are posed
6 There are many, many glorious special effects sequences
7 The denouement is bound to cause some debate. If you like the episode, you’ll be able to rationalise it, but if you don’t you’ll be going, “But hang on, in that episode…?” But that’s Doctor Who fandom
8 You’ll discover a whole new meaning to the phrase “Live Chess” that has nothing to do with Harry Potter
9 The Doctor wonders if he could be the fifth member of something
10 Wi-fi comes in handy
11 There’s the return of an old look for the Doctor
12 There are some unexpected (truly unexpected) returning characters
13 There’s a moving tribute to an old friend
14 The Doctor offers and eye for an eye patch
15 A big revelation may remind you of Little Britain
16 There are some peculiar postmen
17 Somebody’s portrait looks nothing like them
18 The episode title may not be as much of a red herring as you might think. But then again…
19 Bow ties are not just cool, they’re useful on occasion
20 It’s a bit of a gamechanger
21 The eye patch is explained
22 I can guarantee that some people will go, “Oh I guessed that all along,” at one point, but considering millions of fans on thousands of websites have been discussing every possible outcome, it’s not surprising that some people will have come across it. I’m happy to say, I was pleasantly surprised. Maybe I’m thick
23 It’s not faultless – I have quibbles – but it’s ambitious, and clever, and unique, and surprising, and funny, and visually stunning, it’s emotionally engaging and it’s unlike anything else on TV. And I can’t wait to see it again
2 The reason I’d want to watch it again straight away is not because it’s massively complicated and you need to rewatch it to make sense of it. In fact, it’s a surprisingly simple tale, though told in a clever way. No, I wanted to watch it again because a) it’s so rich with detail and b) it’s enormous fun.
3 There is technobabble, but that’s largely a red herring
4 The teaser looks like it was more expensive than the rest of the “back six” put together. It’s a visual and conceptual delight
5 It does answer a lot of questions, but some old ones (from Matt Smith’s first series) are still left open, and some new ones are posed
6 There are many, many glorious special effects sequences
7 The denouement is bound to cause some debate. If you like the episode, you’ll be able to rationalise it, but if you don’t you’ll be going, “But hang on, in that episode…?” But that’s Doctor Who fandom
8 You’ll discover a whole new meaning to the phrase “Live Chess” that has nothing to do with Harry Potter
9 The Doctor wonders if he could be the fifth member of something
10 Wi-fi comes in handy
11 There’s the return of an old look for the Doctor
12 There are some unexpected (truly unexpected) returning characters
13 There’s a moving tribute to an old friend
14 The Doctor offers and eye for an eye patch
15 A big revelation may remind you of Little Britain
16 There are some peculiar postmen
17 Somebody’s portrait looks nothing like them
18 The episode title may not be as much of a red herring as you might think. But then again…
19 Bow ties are not just cool, they’re useful on occasion
20 It’s a bit of a gamechanger
21 The eye patch is explained
22 I can guarantee that some people will go, “Oh I guessed that all along,” at one point, but considering millions of fans on thousands of websites have been discussing every possible outcome, it’s not surprising that some people will have come across it. I’m happy to say, I was pleasantly surprised. Maybe I’m thick
23 It’s not faultless – I have quibbles – but it’s ambitious, and clever, and unique, and surprising, and funny, and visually stunning, it’s emotionally engaging and it’s unlike anything else on TV. And I can’t wait to see it again
SFX Wedding of River Song Review, SPOILERS
Thanks to Samurai8472 for posting this. I'll be forming thoughts.
1 First, a heads-up. We didn’t get an office preview of this one because, at Steven Moffat’s request, no previews were sent out. Instead, I had to go to the show’s London PR office for a private screening. But one thing’s for sure – if we had had a preview version in our office, I would have watched the whole thing over again straight away. Sadly, I was a little too embarrassed to ask the PR guys if I could do that there and then. Now I wish I’d gone, “Sod professionalism…”
2 The reason I’d want to watch it again straight away is not because it’s massively complicated and you need to rewatch it to make sense of it. In fact, it’s a surprisingly simple tale, though told in a clever way. No, I wanted to watch it again because a) it’s so rich with detail and b) it’s enormous fun.
3 There is technobabble, but that’s largely a red herring
This tells us nothing. Sounds par for the course.
4 The teaser looks like it was more expensive than the rest of the “back six” put together. It’s a visual and conceptual delight
5 It does answer a lot of questions, but some old ones (from Matt Smith’s first series) are still left open, and some new ones are posed
If this is true, Series 7 should be Moffat's last unless he gives some resolution.
6 There are many, many glorious special effects sequences
Yea!
7 The denouement is bound to cause some debate. If you like the episode, you’ll be able to rationalise it, but if you don’t you’ll be going, “But hang on, in that episode…?” But that’s Doctor Who fandom
This statement bothers me. It seems to say that sloppy plotting is okay if the story is peppy.
8 You’ll discover a whole new meaning to the phrase “Live Chess” that has nothing to do with Harry Potter
9 The Doctor wonders if he could be the fifth member of something
10 Wi-fi comes in handy
11 There’s the return of an old look for the Doctor
I doubt this, but I hope that it has something to do with Tom Baker's brief voiceover in the Ganger episode.
12 There are some unexpected (truly unexpected) returning characters
See above.
13 There’s a moving tribute to an old friend
Gonna have to say Sara Jane, but the Brig deserves some love, too.
14 The Doctor offers and eye for an eye patch
So he offers the Eye of Harmony to Kovarian?
15 A big revelation may remind you of Little Britain
Somebody must be gay.
16 There are some peculiar postmen
17 Somebody’s portrait looks nothing like them
So we've got Churchilll returning. Perhaps this means Van Gogh, too? If so, they really need to expand on that unnecessary historical network thing from TPO.
18 The episode title may not be as much of a red herring as you might think. But then again…
Teasing dude loves to tease.
19 Bow ties are not just cool, they’re useful on occasion
If my highly unlikely scenario for items 11 and 12 is correct, then maybe a bow tie can be as useful as a scarf.
20 It’s a bit of a gamechanger
Aren't they all? I'm going to go ahead and say that River will be revealed to not only be the daughter of Rory and Amy, but that she is somehow Sexy the TARDIS, thus marriage and wifery.
21 The eye patch is explained
Well thank goodness. The eyepatch keeps me up at night wondering what it all means.
22 I can guarantee that some people will go, “Oh I guessed that all along,” at one point, but considering millions of fans on thousands of websites have been discussing every possible outcome, it’s not surprising that some people will have come across it. I’m happy to say, I was pleasantly surprised. Maybe I’m thick
23 It’s not faultless – I have quibbles – but it’s ambitious, and clever, and unique, and surprising, and funny, and visually stunning, it’s emotionally engaging and it’s unlike anything else on TV. And I can’t wait to see it again.
Thanks to Samurai8472 for posting this. I'll be forming thoughts.
1 First, a heads-up. We didn’t get an office preview of this one because, at Steven Moffat’s request, no previews were sent out. Instead, I had to go to the show’s London PR office for a private screening. But one thing’s for sure – if we had had a preview version in our office, I would have watched the whole thing over again straight away. Sadly, I was a little too embarrassed to ask the PR guys if I could do that there and then. Now I wish I’d gone, “Sod professionalism…”
2 The reason I’d want to watch it again straight away is not because it’s massively complicated and you need to rewatch it to make sense of it. In fact, it’s a surprisingly simple tale, though told in a clever way. No, I wanted to watch it again because a) it’s so rich with detail and b) it’s enormous fun.
3 There is technobabble, but that’s largely a red herring
This tells us nothing. Sounds par for the course.
4 The teaser looks like it was more expensive than the rest of the “back six” put together. It’s a visual and conceptual delight
5 It does answer a lot of questions, but some old ones (from Matt Smith’s first series) are still left open, and some new ones are posed
If this is true, Series 7 should be Moffat's last unless he gives some resolution.
6 There are many, many glorious special effects sequences
Yea!
7 The denouement is bound to cause some debate. If you like the episode, you’ll be able to rationalise it, but if you don’t you’ll be going, “But hang on, in that episode…?” But that’s Doctor Who fandom
This statement bothers me. It seems to say that sloppy plotting is okay if the story is peppy.
8 You’ll discover a whole new meaning to the phrase “Live Chess” that has nothing to do with Harry Potter
9 The Doctor wonders if he could be the fifth member of something
10 Wi-fi comes in handy
11 There’s the return of an old look for the Doctor
I doubt this, but I hope that it has something to do with Tom Baker's brief voiceover in the Ganger episode.
12 There are some unexpected (truly unexpected) returning characters
See above.
13 There’s a moving tribute to an old friend
Gonna have to say Sara Jane, but the Brig deserves some love, too.
14 The Doctor offers and eye for an eye patch
So he offers the Eye of Harmony to Kovarian?
15 A big revelation may remind you of Little Britain
Somebody must be gay.
16 There are some peculiar postmen
17 Somebody’s portrait looks nothing like them
So we've got Churchilll returning. Perhaps this means Van Gogh, too? If so, they really need to expand on that unnecessary historical network thing from TPO.
18 The episode title may not be as much of a red herring as you might think. But then again…
Teasing dude loves to tease.
19 Bow ties are not just cool, they’re useful on occasion
If my highly unlikely scenario for items 11 and 12 is correct, then maybe a bow tie can be as useful as a scarf.
20 It’s a bit of a gamechanger
Aren't they all? I'm going to go ahead and say that River will be revealed to not only be the daughter of Rory and Amy, but that she is somehow Sexy the TARDIS, thus marriage and wifery.
21 The eye patch is explained
Well thank goodness. The eyepatch keeps me up at night wondering what it all means.
22 I can guarantee that some people will go, “Oh I guessed that all along,” at one point, but considering millions of fans on thousands of websites have been discussing every possible outcome, it’s not surprising that some people will have come across it. I’m happy to say, I was pleasantly surprised. Maybe I’m thick
23 It’s not faultless – I have quibbles – but it’s ambitious, and clever, and unique, and surprising, and funny, and visually stunning, it’s emotionally engaging and it’s unlike anything else on TV. And I can’t wait to see it again.
As I pointed out in the "Closing Time" thread I half expect everything to not be wrapped up in a nice bow. This doesn't seem to be how Moffat writes or wants to execute his story. I personally don't mind that. We will get some things addressed and clarified and solved, new elements introduced and set up. Just like last year. I still believe we are building up to a much bigger story than what we've been shown so far...what exactly? I dunno. That's part of the fun of watching!
Re: SFX Wedding of River Song Review, SPOILERS
Is this teaser different from the "prequel to the wedding...."?
And is it available anywhere?
Is this teaser different from the "prequel to the wedding...."?
And is it available anywhere?
That's what I'm afraid of. In many ways, this season has been even more convoluted than Series 5's ridiculous time-crack. I'm curious enough to stick around and see what happens, but truthfully, the Doctor Who that I used to enjoy is long gone.
48 posts (49 now) and the episode hasn't even aired yet?
That's how excited everyone is!
Or bored.
Whichever.
I'm trying to restrain my excitement. I won't get to see it until two weeks after it airs because I'm about to go on vacation.
Or bored.
Whichever.
I'm trying to restrain my excitement. I won't get to see it until two weeks after it airs because I'm about to go on vacation.
^And everyone was worried I posted the thread to early.
BTW if a mod really wants to pull rank and change the season number in the title, be my guest
Meanwhile... frankly I'm shocked beyond belief that the entire plot of TWORS hasn't leaked yet. Or maybe it has and I just haven't stumbled upon it. Could I actually watch the finale and not know what's going on? We'll see.
BTW if a mod really wants to pull rank and change the season number in the title, be my guest
Meanwhile... frankly I'm shocked beyond belief that the entire plot of TWORS hasn't leaked yet. Or maybe it has and I just haven't stumbled upon it. Could I actually watch the finale and not know what's going on? We'll see.
Yeah, that is kind of strange. I've usually accidentally glimpsed at least one spoilery fact this near to the broadcast date.
Indeed. I knew who was in the Pandorica and knew that Rory was returning before the episode (and I really wish I hadn't known). This time around, all I know is that Churchill and Dickens have small appearances and everyone is wearing a patch. And lots of time jumping in general. Lots of vagueness but no real spoilers.
I think the eye patch allows the wearer to remember the Silence when they aren't looking at them, but that is only speculation.
Re: SFX Wedding of River Song Review, SPOILERS
Really looking forward to this on Saturday!!!
I'm betting that River has some connection to the Tardis too, hence the fact why she is a Timelord... she'll probably split in two creating suranne jones or something contrived and random like that
Really looking forward to this on Saturday!!!
I'm betting that River has some connection to the Tardis too, hence the fact why she is a Timelord... she'll probably split in two creating suranne jones or something contrived and random like that
Re: SFX Wedding of River Song Review, SPOILERS
You know I'm thinking something similar. Or maybe it means "wedding" in that she'll merge with something. I really want to like this episode coming up, I really do. The "game changer" and "not all mysteries answered" items make me think that this is really going to suck. If SM doesn't wrap things up by the end of next season he should be fired.
You know I'm thinking something similar. Or maybe it means "wedding" in that she'll merge with something. I really want to like this episode coming up, I really do. The "game changer" and "not all mysteries answered" items make me think that this is really going to suck. If SM doesn't wrap things up by the end of next season he should be fired.
Re: SFX Wedding of River Song Review, SPOILERS
Why? Why must everything always be wrapped up in a tidy little bow? Its BETTER NOT KNOWING IT ALL.
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