Correct. That's speculation based on other factors and statements made by the producers.
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Correct. That's speculation based on other factors and statements made by the producers.
I would imagine she underwent several TMP-style refits (as did the seed ship) before the programmable matter made it a simple matter.
Just got to narrow down when Starfleet decided to add letter suffixes for major refits instead of sequel ships. In real life, going all the way back to TOS concept art, Matt Jeffries envisioned the first refit of the Enterprise getting an "A". Then when TMP rolled around, they considered giving the Enterprise the number NCC-1800 (as seen in some concept art, in Mr. Scott's Guide I think?) and finally started using the letters for new ships with the same name. In universe, I'd say the change probably happened in the Picard-era.
I don't understand why some of you think it needs to be connected to the original in some way other than the name.
What's wrong with Starfleet just reusing the class name and the same basic shape?
Maybe someone at the Starfleet Corps of Engineers was feeling nostalgic.
What's wrong with Starfleet just reusing the class name and the same basic shape?
Maybe someone at the Starfleet Corps of Engineers was feeling nostalgic.
Maybe it's like the case of the Volkswagen Beetle.
We had the original, Herbie-type Beetle.
Then the New Beetle.
And the 3rd iteration was just called Beetle again.
Basically, physically separate, brand-new designed types, but optically and sentimentally referring back to the original. Including sharing the name.
After 800 years of evolution, I guess it doesn't really matter whether the current iteration of the Intrepid class is based on or a direct descendant of the 24th century Intrepid class. The only thing that matters is that the class designation has been canonized.
We had the original, Herbie-type Beetle.
Then the New Beetle.
And the 3rd iteration was just called Beetle again.
Basically, physically separate, brand-new designed types, but optically and sentimentally referring back to the original. Including sharing the name.
After 800 years of evolution, I guess it doesn't really matter whether the current iteration of the Intrepid class is based on or a direct descendant of the 24th century Intrepid class. The only thing that matters is that the class designation has been canonized.
First we had the seeming anomaly of the seed ship having an "-M" registry and being 31st century advanced when Admiral Vance said it's the same ship from the 23rd century. We thought it was a disconnect between writers and FX people. Then we saw Voyager-J and assumed it was a new ship with a similar look. Then Discovery got the "-A" to go with he refit and it all made sense. Letters now go with big upgrades (Discovery, seed ship, Voyager) and new hulls, like the Reliant-M (which could be upgrade after upgrade added to the last new build Reliant-C or something)
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That's plausible.
I'd say new letters are usually reserved for a replacement ship.
Discovery-A is legally replacing the Discovery-nil "destroyed" in the Battle near Xahea in 2258, so the history books remain untarnished.
The name Tikhov may have become synonymous with being "the seed-vault ship". That same program is still ongoing, so that's why Vance says the Tikhov is still around.
Owosekun and Tilly agree that Voy-J is the nth generation of evolution for the name Voyager. "Generation" indicates there's been a Mama Voyager, Grandma Voyager, and so on.
I'd say new letters are usually reserved for a replacement ship.
Discovery-A is legally replacing the Discovery-nil "destroyed" in the Battle near Xahea in 2258, so the history books remain untarnished.
The name Tikhov may have become synonymous with being "the seed-vault ship". That same program is still ongoing, so that's why Vance says the Tikhov is still around.
Owosekun and Tilly agree that Voy-J is the nth generation of evolution for the name Voyager. "Generation" indicates there's been a Mama Voyager, Grandma Voyager, and so on.
So every Enterprise is an evolution of the past one?
From a technical stand point.
While that's technically true and a good point, honestly I think it was much simpler than that. I think Starfleet just gave the ship an A suffix as a formality. It wasn't technically necessary, but they did it anyway as a tribute.
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Maybe it is the original ship it may have been put in the museum and over the years stayed there then when all this happened they need ships so today they take it, revamped it slap a j on it because there were nine other voyagers before then but it is an upgraded Intrepid
Maybe it is the original ship it may have been put in the museum and over the years stayed there then when all this happened they need ships so today they take it, revamped it slap a j on it because there were nine other voyagers before then but it is an upgraded Intrepid
We no longer know that for a fact now. How do you know that in the 32nd century, Starfleet doesn't just give letters to refits all the time?
That could be true. It's a new millenium after all.
Another opinion authoritatively expressed under the pretense of fact. Shocker.
EDF probably wanted it removed from the Presidio XD
(Btw, it would be great to see it sitting there in PIC!)
In STO, Voyager is still up and running and performing missions in the Delta Quadrant in 2411. There's still plenty of life left in that vessel before it can be consigned to (become) a museum.
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Honestly, if any class of ship would survive unchanged for 900 years for no obvious reason, it would be the Miranda class. They're like cockroaches.
Two Intrepid Classes?? Unacceptable! NOT Canon! Has never happened before! Oh.. wait.. Antares.. Carry on. 
Well...in STO, the Galactic Union employs Miranda- and Centaur-class frigates during the signing ceremony of the Temporal Accords at New Khitomer in 2769. Including the venerable USS Centaur NCC-42043!
I think those are meant to be other temporal agents like you.
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