Spoilers 31st/32nd Century Ships Revealed

[IMC Headquarters]

How can they depreciate when StarFleet & the UFP doesn't use money internally?

Well...some might say that with Chakotay at the controls it might as well be a write-off.

Hope we'll finally see bridges and other interiors for at least some of the ships in Season 4!

With programmable matter and holography they can look like anything from any time. Hell, they could fashion a TARDIS interior, or the wheelhouse of a steamboat. And they could do the interior of Frasier Crane's Seattle apartment and use Martin's recliner for the Captain's chair!

No limits!

 

[F. King Daniel]

Hope we'll finally see bridges and other interiors for at least some of the ships in Season 4!

They'll just redress the Shenzhou bridge, like they always do

 

[JoseNoodles]

Hey, that two level bridge won't pay for itself.

 

[LazyReader]

The Star Trek Shipyards book is here!
And here's the part I've been waiting for: Chapter 5 - 32nd century.

Angelou class - USS Maathai NCC-325003 - 2109.43 meters

Constitution class - USS Armstrong NCC-317856 / USS Excalibur NCC-1664-M / USS Noble NCC-325002 - 1399.82 meters
Courage class ("Class unknown") - USS Jubayr NCC-325080 / USS Shogun NCC-325082 / USS Song NCC-325084 - 114.92 meters
Crossfield class - USS Discovery-A NCC-1031 - 750/5 meters

Class unknown - USS Dresselhaus NCC-325019 / USS LaMar NCC-325015 / USS Pfau NCC-3250174 (!) - 654.76 meters

Eisenberg class - USS Nog NCC-325070 / USS Grechko NCC-325071 / USS Cuyahoga NCC-325069 / USS Hansando NCC-325072 (written as "NCC-325002")
Friendship class - USS Thant NCC-325005 / USS Yang NCC-321616 / USS Yousafzai NCC-325010 - 1188.72 meters
Intrepid class - USS Voyager NCC-74656-J - 452.95 meters

Mars class (called "Class unknown") - USS Liu Cixin NCC-325060 / USS Le Guin NCC-325059 / USS Zheng He NCC-325057 - 415.4 meters
Merian class - USS Curie NCC-81890-J - 777.24 meters
Saturn class ("Class unknown") - USS Annan NCC-325051 - 1041.32 meters
seed vault ship ("Tikhov type") - USS Tikhov NCC-1067-M - 51.3 meters

PICTURES: https://twitter.com/MarkoNolan/status/1430265933424209921

Funny, I've always guessed "Angelous" were 2 km long

 

[Lakenheath 72]

I have re-watched the sequence where the Discovery is greeted by the flotilla of ships. The Yang is the first ship on the right. It is not possible to confirm that the registry is correct, as only the first two numbers are seen.

 

[LazyReader]

"30th" I assume you mean 31st, 32nd. However flashback show's the starships of various classes existed by 3069 when the Burn occurred. Though this was probably the Special effects dept re-using ships for sake of filling a field, which is certainly better than designing 31st century ships from scratch just to have them blown up.
"First Contact" did that and designed 4 new starships just to destroy several (Akira, Sabre, Norway, Steamrunner).

I imagine that after the Burn, the ability of Starfleet to build ships diminished as the federation lost planets that held ship yards. With Earth's departure, Utopia Planitia, San Francisco fleet yards.... Starfleet was forced to either find a new shipyard, build one on Federation worlds they retained control or keep their ships in service FAR longer than expected.
However with materials like "neutronium'' and programmable matter these vessels may be upgradeable indefinitely finally solving a problem.

 

[Timo]

Might well be nothing was solved, and those centuries-old ships are falling apart in the 32nd, but there's nothing better available.

It's just too bad that in the shot depicting the Burn, however symbolically, basically all the 32nd century ship types are already in evidence, rather than those that might be deemed to look the oldest (the ones with fixed nacelles, say), or even any subset of the total. It now seems nothing at all was introduced post-Burn, which is a pity.

But we have little reason to think starships could not serve for centuries, or perhaps millennia. Upgrades would only be relevant if the ships faced evolving challenges, but by and large, space doesn't evolve: a star freighter from the days of Charlemagne would still be good for the job in AD 9733. And while machines today get outdated when the machinery for making spares for them wears down and is not replaced, Starfleet post-TNG can make ancient spares just as trivially as it can make modern ones, just by punching the proper buttons on the industrial replicators. Keeping a 600-year-old ship running would depend merely on available expertise - and our heroes are experts on operating unfamiliar hardware, plus the hardware itself is supposedly extremely user-friendly and informative post-TNG.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[LazyReader]

One thing in particular Starfleets 31st/32nd century vessels are quite the "lookers"
In particular, exception of the Constitution which I suggest was built/designed out of nostalgia.
They are.....taking some getting used to. All in all, they've grown on me. Engineers/artist Eric Geusz’s work is proof that inspiration is everywhere. Still the biggest mistake the designers made was not properly scaling the windows when they released final measurement specifications.

Seems they just raided their offices and scanned in whatever they could find and said, 'this is a ship now'

But the logic of possible designs
- The "Eisenberg" USS Nog, actually if you look at the Dorsal view resembles lumps and bumps of Nog's Head.
- The "Tikhov" type is a genetic seed bank, so it resembles a Sunflower seed.
- The "USS Curie" resembles Apple's minimalistic design aesthetic. An Apple mouse
- The "Angelou Class" is inspired by NASA's 1975 conceptual Stanford Torus
- "Saturn class" is obvious........never the less inspired by Modern day sports stadiums, In particular works of Architect Santiago Calatrava.
- "Courage class" USS Jabayr was named in honor of Arabian Geographer Ibn Jabayr, hence design wise inspired by the design of late Arab Architect Zaha Hadid.
- The "Constitution" USS Armstrong, inspired by late American architect Eero Saarinen.

 

[NCC-73515]

"30th" I assume you mean 31st, 32nd. However flashback show's the starships of various classes existed by 3069 when the Burn occurred.

We first saw them in the flashback that was suggested to be in the 30th century

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Do we honestly need a 3rd ships thread to decide if they're ugly?

ETA: Thread has been officially "whooshed" into the remodeled 31st/32nd Century ships thread

 

[Unicron]

I'm kind of mixed. I'm not huge on the floating nacelles/saucer concept, because some of the designs (like the Voyager-J) just don't look that good with it. It doesn't help that such a feature doesn't easily translate into making models of such ships. Other designs like the Thant are somewhat better, though I still feel like the floating elements don't make a lot of engineering sense. YMMV of course.

 

[F. King Daniel]

They look different, like there's been centuries of design evolution in different directions. They have magical floating parts, intricate designs. Parts we have no idea what they do. Which is exactly the point, so they succeed there.

I think the Constitution, Nog and Jubayr look good. The rest are hit and miss... but I feel that way about ALL Trek eras/fleets.

 

[shapeshifter]

My post above is about the visual aesthetics of these new ships.

I should have added, I am perfectly fine with detached components. Having mass capable of moving around can make them more maneuverable, as best illustrated so far by Book's ship.

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I hope the bigger ships can also throw their weight around like that.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

We first saw them in the flashback that was suggested to be in the 30th century

The burn happened around 3069 which is in the 31st century. If it had happened in 2969 then it would be the 30th century.

 

[fireproof78]

I think the Constitution, Nog and Jubayr look good. The rest are hit and miss... but I feel that way about ALL Trek eras/fleets.

Yup. There are few eras that I universally love with starship design. These new ones have some great designs, some less impressive ones, and ones that I'm just meh about. So, part for Star Trek thus far.

 

[mswood]

Generally don't care for them. And I really dislike the detached aspect of some of them. My perspective of them on the show is that most of them are shapes without much in the way of outside detail. That's a perfectly valid design choice, but for me as a viewer it makes the ships seem really boring.

 

[NCC-73515]

2258+700=2958 is what she said when that scene was shown

 

[Agony_Boothb]

2258+700=2958 is what she said when that scene was shown

No, that was when dilitihium supplies dried up not when the burn occurred. It's stated multiple times that the burn occurred 120 years before Discovery arrived which would have been 3068-69.

 

[Markonian]

The Burn is depicted in a recent TOS comic. It is seen in one panel, with the fireballs of ship explosions. Ships themselves cannot be seen.

 

[Timo]

It should be noted that the onscreen version of the event is expliticly not literal: the multiple starships in that one frame are previously established to be at map coordinates separated by (tens of) thousands of lightyears. So we still don't know what the Burn looked like, literally. A 32nd century warp core is seen blowing in "That Hope Is You pt II", featuring blue glow, an initial implosion, and subsequent bright whiteness. That is, not an orange gasoline kaboom...

Another thing of note is that apparently ships with their warp cores offline would not explode. How often does a ship have its core offline? Saru tried to bluff with such a claim, riding on an assumption of plausibility - it might be that ships up till the 2250s at least indeed do take their cores offline fairly regularly, when not at warp. TNG "Skin of Evil" paints such a thing as highly irregular in the 2360s, though... Perhaps no cores were offline in the 31st century Starfleet, and every active ship was lost?

Along with a few passive ones. The debris cloud above Hima in "That Hope Is You pt I" features wreckage with unlabeled or partially labeled hull segments: rings with NCC stenciled in but the number itself prominently missing. A construction yard wrecked at the specific moment if applying that paint?

Timo Saloniemi