2x11 - Deliverance

[AJ86]

Only a week to go now. Sneak peek is out, still not sign of a promo though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkHqpstjT88

Not that spoilery, in fact slightly pointless really...

 

[SG-17]

♥ Disappointed Rush.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

I love how Rush's expression says more than all of Brody, Volker, and Park's dialogue. I'm looking forward to more SGU, even though it'll be short.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Decent solid episode. I liked seeing Park a little more and Rush's deft people skills(!). I liked that little shot with LDP after the fate of the Ursini, nicely understated but effective.

 

[AJ86]

Mostly very enjoyable. I didn't like the way they dealt with the Ursini though, or TJ's weeping, and I really don't like what Rush's last comments seem to foreshadow. If the show descends into Intelligent Design retardery (yes it's a word... now) then I'll be washing my hands of it. Other than that though I thought it was a great episode.

 

[Tom]

Not a bad episode, probably on of the most SFX ones we have seen on SGU. Although they seemed to skip showing us the seeder ship blowing up, that was a little bit of a let down.

 

[BlobVanDam]

Mostly very enjoyable. I didn't like the way they dealt with the Ursini though, or TJ's weeping, and I really don't like what Rush's last comments seem to foreshadow. If the show descends into Intelligent Design retardery (yes it's a word... now) then I'll be washing my hands of it. Other than that though I thought it was a great episode.

I don't think it will go that way. I'd say his current thoughts are more to do with what he's found out about the background cosmic radiation thingy. I like that Rush was a little bit softer in this episode, but not enough to compromise what's established about his character.

I thought it was a fairly good episode. When they announced that they had to power up the drone to upload the program, all I could think was when they did the same thing with the Replicators on SGU. Other than that, pretty good overall.

 

[AJ86]

Not a bad episode, probably on of the most SFX ones we have seen on SGU. Although they seemed to skip showing us the seeder ship blowing up, that was a little bit of a let down.

And it looked awful too, though I might just think that because I saw some of the other concept designs for it, which I wish they had chosen:

 

[bullethead]

Not a bad episode, probably on of the most SFX ones we have seen on SGU. Although they seemed to skip showing us the seeder ship blowing up, that was a little bit of a let down.

And it looked awful too, though I might just think that because I saw some of the other concept designs for it, which I wish they had chosen:

I can see why they were rejected if they were seed ship designs. They have absolutely no aesthetic connection to Destiny's look, which makes them better as alien designs.

Overall, the episode was a bit boring, but they managed to ratchet up the scifi content and integrate it into the main plot, instead of leaving it flopping around like in season 1 or much of early season 2. I just wonder what happened to Varro.

 

[Tom]

Quick write-off of the Ursini and the Seeder ship...Check LOL

 

[AJ86]

Not a bad episode, probably on of the most SFX ones we have seen on SGU. Although they seemed to skip showing us the seeder ship blowing up, that was a little bit of a let down.

And it looked awful too, though I might just think that because I saw some of the other concept designs for it, which I wish they had chosen:

I can see why they were rejected if they were seed ship designs. They have absolutely no aesthetic connection to Destiny's look, which makes them better as alien designs.

Overall, the episode was a bit boring, but they managed to ratchet up the scifi content and integrate it into the main plot, instead of leaving it flopping around like in season 1 or much of early season 2. I just wonder what happened to Varro.

They were Command Ship designs

 

[Captain Shaw]

I'm worried by the fact that Rush is being nice.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Stargate Deliverance?

No space hillbillies raping the crew?

I liked it even without the gaysex.

 

[Caliburn24]

This episode, in and of itself wasn't bad as a bottle hour of entertainment. Unfortunately SGU has been touted as an at least partly serialized show and it as part of that larger tapestry that it fails completely.

Remember during the first half of the second season all the Chloe/Scott angst and drama with her becoming an alien or something? Remember the hints from the writers and producers that it was all leading to something cool? Yeah, nothing happened, nothing changed. Chloe is back to normal until the writers decide to give her some sort of relapse. Lazy, lazy, lazy writing, no planning of story or character arcs. And worst of all it makes all those hours of Chloe angst pretty much pointless.

 

[The Wormhole]

I wasn't actually very impressed. It was actually a pretty bland episode, really.

First, I'll admit, I'm glad they finally changed the opening intro. Rush and Young "bumping heads" no longer has any relevance to the show, and Scott's angry "I'm telling you this ship came here for a reason!" was getting tiresome. Unfortunately, it has that line from earlier in the season that Space had in all its promos that is getting tiresome to me now. Young: "There is no mission other than getting these people home." Rush: "This was never about getting home. It's about getting us to where we're going." I don't know if it's because I heard it so often, the fact that it's rather clunky dialogue, or a combination of the two that I'm growing weary of it.

And speaking of growing weary, Chloe's transformation is a storyline that was worn out in the first half of the season and now that it's just magically resolved is even more disappointing. The only good thing about it, is that it is done. But I really don't understand anything about this. Wasn't her transformation triggered by being abducted by the Sombreroids, and wasn't she turning into a Sombreroid herself? Why the hell were they so cooperative in reversing this? And what was Rush going on about when he said any info they took from Chloe about Destiny will make them want it more? When the Sombreroids abducted Rush they learned enough from him to know English, so they already know all he knew then about Destiny. Chloe now doesn't know much more about the ship.

Also, scenes between Scott and Chloe have been a pain in the ass to watch since Cloverdale, and this is no exception. Four or five months later, and that episode still leaves an impression.

And what happened to Specialist Gage or whatever his SGU name is, TJ's Lucian Alliance love interest? At the end of the previous episode, TJ calls him down to the infirmary to help out with the wounded, but he's nowhere to be found here. Was he himself wounded, or did he just run back to his quarters?

Rush's nice guy thing is now a bit odd. I liked the implication when he complimented Brody and Volker that he was just pretending to be nice to get rid of them, but then his conversation with Chloe at the end shows he is softening up a bit and he's now starting to believe in fate or something similar? My problem here is that this comes completely out of the blue. He was his normal self at the end of season 2.0 aside from starting to trust Young, and now he's just transformed into a completely different type of character. Magically deciding to make the character different is not the same as character development.

Overall, I've watched worse, but this episode is hardly an improvement, or really all that good. Just the same old SGU, only this time we have the impending end looming over the horizon.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Overall, I've watched worse, but this episode is hardly an improvement, or really all that good. Just the same old SGU, only this time we have the impending end looming over the horizon.

I think that might have softened my critical faculties, I was happy to have it back, and knowing it's dead in the water anyway I think I viewed it gentler than usual.

 

[Mark_Nguyen]

Agreed. I find myself watching with a less critical eye now that I know that no amount of ANYONE complaining will fix the show anymore. I do hope for a movie, but that's a pipe dream that's way too far away to be realistic.

That said, there were a lot of elements here that did not benefit from a months-long break to remember all of a sudden - had THIS had been the end of the first half, it would have been better. Instead, I found myself struggling to remember all that stuff about the blue aliens and what their investment was in all of this, and also what was motivating Rush to be so nice this week. All of it was logical enough in terms of storytelling, but I had only seen the previous episodes once and long enough ago that lots of the salient points had been forgotten. I remember plenty about the Lucian Aliance arc, but that has no relevance to this.

Still, I really would have preferred all these aliens to stick around rather than be introduced and then suddenly removed again. The blues are back, the browns are (all?) dead, and the seed ship was destroyed in a spectacular display offscreen after one VFX shot (which itself was sorta wierd, since they didn't give any focus to the browns in the whole episode before offhandedly killing them off).

The mid-season two-parter mostly serves to reintroduce the blue aliens and "cure" Chloe's condition, at least for now. Other than that, there hasn't been much change since the Lucians were taken care of. Now that we have nine hours left before the apparent end of the Stargate franchise for the foreseeable future, I want to keep watching to see how far we get before we're left disappointingly hanging for a very long time.

Mark

 

[Brent]

You know what, I really liked this episode. It was all space oriented and had exactly what I wanted to see in it, very cool stuff, if only they had been doing episodes like this the past season.

After an ep like this, I'm sad to see it go, I was looking forward to seeing where all the storylines go and this great mystery that is out there, the people that built the planet and gave them a new shuttle? The structure in the universe? What the blue aliens want? What this machine race is all about? All of it, we'll never get a good answer to now. I'm really PO'd at SYFY for not giving them at least one more season to wrap things up, ugh.

 

[Danny99]

- What’s this show again? Damn Sy Fy and their three-month hiatuses!
- Hell of a gamble for Chloe, but better than anything Young, Rush, and the rest of them game up with.
- Ursini -= stupidest aliens in the galaxies
- Ming-Na is still running around behind Young’s back.
- Scott trying to get the shuttle lined up was like trying to back up my 99 Deville.
- The Scott and Chloe scenes drag down the episode, as muddled as it is. The writers seem to be living in a glass bottle when it comes to these two and realizing how pathetic we think they are.
- Isn’t the scene where a blue alien pulls out a large tool and cocks it everyone’s worst abduction nightmare?
- This episode was a jumbled mess. It was a lot like BOBW Part II, where the writers had no idea how to get out of the corner they had written themselves into.
- So Chloe not losing her memory is the writer’s way of making her useful?

 

[The Wormhole]

A bit of a nitpick I just remembered: when the control ship and the Sombreroid ships arrive, the characters say the ships "dropped out of hyperspace" even though they use the same effect as Destiny dropping out of FTL, which is supposed to be different than hyperdrive. What up with that?