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2 million fewer viewers

^For about the umpteenth time their are NO ADVERTS ON THE BBC. Their is no advertising space to sell.. It doesn't matter if X watch it live, Y watch it time shifted and Z watch it on iPlayer.

It baffles me that people can read "Guy's" posts and not realise that he's putting on an act. (That goes double if you've ever read a DC comic in the past 30 years.)
 
I want at least 40 regular sized episodes per year, as well as three to 5 movie sized tv specials.

This is what I want, and I am fully prepared to do absolutely nothing to see all that becomes a reality.

Me too!

This post should be effort enough.
 
I want at least 40 regular sized episodes per year, as well as three to 5 movie sized tv specials.

This is what I want, and I am fully prepared to do absolutely nothing to see all that becomes a reality.

Funny enough, those sorts of numbers are a reality (except the TV) for those of us who follow the Big Finish audios.
 
As I've said elsewhere, I don't think quality or complexity is a major issue in the declining viewing figures. There may be some effect of Capaldi's age losing some of the younger viewers, but I'd say it's just run its course. It was never going to maintain the incredible popularity of the early revival. Everything has a season.

I can't see the Beeb letting it go completely, but relegating it to specials at Easter and Christmas and if we're lucky an occasional three part special is probably the end result.

I'd be O.K. with that if they're good.
That was off the top of my head, I've no inside information !

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-series-could-scrapped-6567112
 
I can't see the Beeb letting it go completely, but relegating it to specials at Easter and Christmas and if we're lucky an occasional three part special is probably the end result.

I'd be O.K. with that if they're good.
That was off the top of my head, I've no inside information !

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/doctor-who-series-could-scrapped-6567112

That article... wow. That gave me a good laugh. :)

I'm not going to say that scenario is impossible. I just find it very, very unlikely.
 
^ I hope you're right Allyn, but hasn't the Mirror had a good record with DW stories lately?

Richard Madden strikes me as too much a conventional handsome leading man to play The Doctor, FWIW.
 
That article... wow. That gave me a good laugh. :)

I'm not going to say that scenario is impossible. I just find it very, very unlikely.

I wouldn't laugh too much given their 100% accurate record with DW related stories this year. Strip out the fluff surrounding it and a few feature-length specials next year with Capaldi gone at the end of them is completely plausible.

The BBC don't do themselves any favours by claiming in October that it's too soon to discuss next year, given that for a full series they'd have to start shooting in three months time.
 
That article... wow. That gave me a good laugh. :)

I'm not going to say that scenario is impossible. I just find it very, very unlikely.

I wouldn't laugh too much given their 100% accurate record with DW related stories this year. Strip out the fluff surrounding it and a few feature-length specials next year with Capaldi gone at the end of them is completely plausible.

Oh, I agree that it's entirely possible. The BBC may well be discussing this very thing. I haven't turned into Jon Blum here, I'm not going to pretend away the story because it doesn't fit my preconceived ideas. :)

I'm thinking of the problems the BBC had with the last season of specials in terms of budget and funding. In the BBC's defense, they have the Sherlock model, and if they approached Doctor Who in the same way -- three or four ninety minutes episodes over a three or four week period, rather than random specials scattered throughout the years as RTD did in 2009 -- Moffat may avoid the problems RTD had behind the scenes.

I also think there would be pushback from Worldwide if the BBC decided to do a Sherlock-like season. I know the BBC isn't supposed to consider the financial implications of their programming decisions, but they would also be foolish not to.
 
Four 90 minute eps. would be nearly equal to a McCoy season, so it might not be all that bad in the end.
 
Oh, I agree that it's entirely possible. The BBC may well be discussing this very thing. I haven't turned into Jon Blum here, I'm not going to pretend away the story because it doesn't fit my preconceived ideas. :)

God, it's been years since I posted or read GB; is he still doing that?
 
Four 90 minute eps. would be nearly equal to a McCoy season, so it might not be all that bad in the end.
If it delivered three or four specials of the same sort of quality as Sherlock does, I'd prefer that to a full season.

Imagine a run of The Girl in the Fireplace, The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances and Blink...
 
Four 90 minute eps. would be nearly equal to a McCoy season, so it might not be all that bad in the end.
If it delivered three or four specials of the same sort of quality as Sherlock does, I'd prefer that to a full season.

Imagine a run of The Girl in the Fireplace, The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances and Blink...

So we need another showrunner like RTD? ;)
 
I'm a believer in quality over quantity too. But I actually think that so far this season is possibly the strongest season of Who since Moffatt took over. So it would be somewhat ironic and unfair if this season ended up losing viewers to the extent that the show was relegated from getting a full season.
 
I'm a believer in quality over quantity too. But I actually think that so far this season is possibly the strongest season of Who since Moffatt took over. So it would be somewhat ironic and unfair if this season ended up losing viewers to the extent that the show was relegated from getting a full season.

I still haven't seen any of the new episodes yet. I'm probably going to binge them tomorrow.

However, everyone I've talked to has said that this season is awesome so far. That said, because of spoilers on the internet, everybody knows that this season is full of two-parters, so many of my friends aren't watching every week. Some are only watching every two weeks so they can see the two-parters in their entirety. Others are planning to wait until the season is over and just binge the whole thing.

I have to admit, I much prefer to watch entire seasons in one or two sittings. I never tune in to shows as they air.
 
Four 90 minute eps. would be nearly equal to a McCoy season, so it might not be all that bad in the end.
If it delivered three or four specials of the same sort of quality as Sherlock does, I'd prefer that to a full season.

Imagine a run of The Girl in the Fireplace, The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances and Blink...

So we need another showrunner like RTD? ;)

No, we need a writer concentrating on making a small number of 90 minute specials the best they can possibly be, like Moffat on Sherlock.

No one springs to mind...

;)
 
Four 90 minute eps. would be nearly equal to a McCoy season, so it might not be all that bad in the end.
If it delivered three or four specials of the same sort of quality as Sherlock does, I'd prefer that to a full season.

Imagine a run of The Girl in the Fireplace, The Empty Child, The Doctor Dances and Blink...
Agreed.

Although, I'd prefer 5 over 4, myself. :)
 
Week figures from the Sunday Times: who was no.7 for the week.

Number 8, as per BARB's site. (And if you take out Reality TV and Soaps it's Number 3.)

Either way it does show the bizarre state of British TV; where figures that wouldn't have got you in the Top 20 a couple of years ago will get you in the Top 10 today.
 
^Is that number 7 for BBC1 or for the UK?

But 4 or 5 specials a year would equate to 8 or 10 normal episodes. Perhaps these season with more two parters is a dry run for that, there is potentialy some savings to be made, not needing as many new sets to name just one.
 
^Is that number 7 for BBC1 or for the UK?

That's the All Channel Top 10. (Episode 1 was #4 for BBC1.)

So basically when people say is there a Ratings Crisis, it's a question with both a Yes and a No answer. Yes a couple of million viewers have wandered away but proportionally speaking they've done the same for (almost) every other show as well. If you work for any of the main British TV channels that's a problem for you but DW's only real problem is the ability of the man currently in charge to actually make the damn thing in a timely fashion.
 
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