If we had multiple, well positioned assholes, we could braid shit during a movement like how they do with multiflavoured softserve dispensers.
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Response #1: Gross.
Response #2: I'm pretty sure we have "multiple, well positioned assholes" on the board here somewhere...
Response #3: Stop watching the Squatty Potty video.
Ignoring the BBC Worldwide contribution for a moment: in the US, the episodes air with a "Coproduced by BBC America" tag at the end of the credits. Is that not there in the UK?
If it's there worldwide, that says to me that it's not being made solely with British licence payer money, but that BBC America is contributing directly to the production costs on the show.
If BBC America is putting that in just for themselves... well, that seems skeezy.
I supsect that BBC America is directly contributing to the production costs, just as WBGH directly contributes to the production costs of Sherlock. Yes, Sherlock is a coproduction between the BBC and WGBH, even though the BBC tries to downplay that. BBC American and WGBH don't have any editorial content over Who and Sherlock, but the programs would also have lower budgets without them.
And BBC co-produced lots of HBO stuff, as does Sky now. Co-productions are fairly standard arrangements nowadays. Basically BBC America contribute, as did CBC in the first couple of years but that doesn't mean a whole lot.
Now BBC America co-produces Orphan Black with Space and BBC Three airs it in the UK but if BBC America were to cancel it I doubt Space or BBC Three would have no say in it. Being produced by an independent studio they may be able to shop it around and have it picked up elsewhere with another production partner but Doctor Who is owned and produced by the BBC, so unless they wanted to license it to another producer that isn't an option.
It all comes down to the BBC and whether they consider it worth producing, which I'm sure is a complex calculation that none of us have any real idea about.
This isn't true, actually. They do consider the income from other markets. International sales do play a role--maybe not a huge one, but, it is something to consider. Sure, it won't save a show from being cancelled in three episodes, but, if it has strong international sales, it will be considered.
Are you saying Doctor Who only brings in 10 million pounds? I find that number hard to believe.
Right. If it's guess work, it could also go the other way. They could be taking into account the money brought in.
No, I'm saying BBC Worldwide bring in over a billion pound from Doctor Who, Top Gear, etc. but once their operating costs are taken in to account they only return £220m to the BBC. When you consider all of the shows the BBC make and sell the proportion of that Doctor Who is responsible for must be fairly small.
Doctor Who costs what? £10-20 million a series at a guess, so all things considered if it's popularity falls enough in the UK it may well be a calculation worth doing to cancel it and invest the money elsewhere and hope for another hit. Or they may decide to give it less prominence here and a lower budget and hope BBC America and/or other producers will make up the difference.
Really though, we know there's another series coming and then we'll see, but people love to speculate on this sort of stuff.
Doctor Who costs what? £10-20 million a series at a guess, so all things considered if it's popularity falls enough in the UK it may well be a calculation worth doing to cancel it and invest the money elsewhere and hope for another hit. Or they may decide to give it less prominence here and a lower budget and hope BBC America and/or other producers will make up the difference.
Really though, we know there's another series coming and then we'll see, but people love to speculate on this sort of stuff.
That's quite an assumption. Top Gear and Doctor Who are much bigger names and brands than many many of the other BBC shows. I would guess the percentage of that cash that Doctor Who brings in is anything other than fairly small.
Don't suppose that all shows are being sold to the international market at the same rate.
