Yup exactly.
‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’
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Yup exactly.
Bruce has a ton of family in the comics right now. They might not be biological family, but he clearly views Dick, Tim, Barbara, Alfred etc as family members. There's a reason they're referred to as the Bat Family.
Saw the trailer this morning and was quite impressed. I noticed Aron Eisenberg is going to be playing Luther. I don't know much about this movie so this may be a weird question, but Spacy wasn't available?
My point is; Even if BvS is a brilliant comic book film, that doesn't suddenly make MoS a better film. MoS had no vision, it was laregely destruction porn and by now giving that destruction actual victims in the new film doesn't make the first film better. My point is that, when the new film is released, people are going to say that MoS brilliantly laid it all out, but it didn't. The writers of the first film simple wanted to write destruction rather than actually build a cinematic world or real characters, and the new film simply used moments in the first film that were shockingly empty and filled them in with emotional cement they freshly concocted that wasn't there to begin with
Well the most important thing MOS did was establish a more grounded and serious tone for the new DC universe, and to differentiate itself from the lighthearted and comic booky Marvel movies. And whether you liked the movie or not, I think it did that really well.
And as for the movie's vision, I think it was clearly to humanize Superman and make him more relatable than we've ever seen before, which I also think they did well. That's certainly my main takeaway from the film anyway, more than the so-called "destruction porn".
Except that the movie had more real characters than the Marvel films and the writers wanted to show us what gods battling would really be like. The second film will directly deal with and build upon the events in the first film. Aside from a few flaws, MoS was a perfectly fine film that established the tone of the new shared universe.
You can keep complaining that they didn't do it the way you would have preferred, but they had seeds everywhere of the larger universe, more than Iron Man 1 did.
And I'm tired of listening to people complain about "destruction porn" in a genre that is pretty much all about "destruction porn". Have you ever read any of the stuff all these movies are based on?
Didn't DC already establish that tone with its previous 3 movies in Batman? They didn't need Superman to re-establish that. We know DC likes it darker ever since Green Lantern blew up in their faces.
Even if it's a new universe, the tone was already set, you don't create a whole movie for tone, I would like to hope there are more important things to accomplish than that. Creating likeable characters, for one.
"Luke, I am your Father, Obi Wan lied about me being dead, and don't kiss the Hot Princess, she's your sister"
Yes.
And yes. The "destruction porn" and "the movie had no vision" comments really are tiresome and woefully off the mark. The people currently making Superman movies had the temerity to go in a different direction than the Donner/Reeve movies? Oh well. The next batch of filmmakers to give it a go will do something else. Can't please everyone.
I doubt they even approached him. This is a whole new universe, with an entirely new cast.
As for Bruce having a family, and their deaths being what brings him back as Batman, I don't have a problem with it. First of all, he was supposed to have been retired, so I doubt he was out running around in the Batsuit while the wife was at home with the kiddies. It would take something pretty big to get him to go back to being Batman and to turn him against Superman and I think the death of his family would be a great way to do drive him to the place we see him at in the trailer.
I know he's never been in that exact situation in the comics, but these kinds of things are never recreations of the comics.
Well the TDK movies were never going to be part of the new DC universe, so clearly they kinda did need to reestablish that with MOS. Especially since movies like Superman Returns and Green Lantern had kind of muddied the waters a bit as to what the tone should be (with one being a lot more poetic and the other trying really hard to be a Marvel movie).
And plus MOS was just a bit more mythic and larger than life than the TDK movies as well, so there was a slight shift in tone that needed to be established there.
Kevin Spacey wasn't in Man of Steel. He was in Superman Returns where Brandon Routh played Superman.
My mistake. Luther wasn't even in MoS. It's been a while since I've seen either.
It is Jesse Eisenberg (the dude from the Facebook movie). Aron Eisenberg was the actor who played Nog in DS9.
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By the way, Superman can make a suit to counteract the Kryptonite.
