‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

[Mach5]

Come on guys, it's not funny, give Adam West his costume back!

 

[Rat Boy]

Context for the pictures. And why it looks like the Batmobile's a Power Wheels car in a couple of them.

 

[davejames]

Jeez, what moron decided these costumes should be lit from below? They've got some really cool costumes there, but they're lit so poorly you can barely tell.

 

[Mudd]

Well, most of the detailing of Batman's outfit, including the tiny ears, is directly inspired by Miller's art.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Some new photos to nitpick and whine about.

Nothing to really bitch about here, looks good to me.

 

[Rat Boy]

Huh. I only just now noticed that the cowl's all one piece but the neck can still move.

 

[SalvorHardin]

And an Honest Trailer is out

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR5HuQK5fYY[/yt]

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Trailer looks good. I'm guessing if you hated Man of Steel you'll probably hate this and if you loved MoS you'll probably love this one. If you were meh on it you'll probably have the same reaction to this one.

 

[Servo]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but something occurred to me while I was talking to a friend about this; does anyone else think it's odd that this film is supposed to lead into the formation of the Justice League, yet they've gone with an older Batman? Sure, he's probably still a badass, and has a lot of gadgets to fall back on, but I wouldn't expect that Batman to be able to do much up against Darkseid or Brainiac.

Also, has anyone actually confirmed how long after MoS this film takes place?

 

[JoeZhang]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but something occurred to me while I was talking to a friend about this; does anyone else think it's odd that this film is supposed to lead into the formation of the Justice League, yet they've gone with an older Batman? Sure, he's probably still a badass, and has a lot of gadgets to fall back on, but I wouldn't expect that Batman to be able to do much up against Darkseid or Brainiac.

Also, has anyone actually confirmed how long after MoS this film takes place?

That's a longer conversation but a 'at his peak' Batman shouldn't be able to so much against Darkseid either so I don't see that as an issue.

One of the problems over the last two decade or so is the way that regardless of power levels characters who should not fight directly do - I remember a Batman/Superman story for a few years ago where he's in a straight up fist-fight with Darkseid - it was pretty dumb.

Alan Moore had this right idea thirty years ago where in a fight between Wonder Woman and Mongul with Robin asking "shouldn't we help?" Batman replies "No that's completely out of our league" and instead spends his time on something useful.

 

[davejames]

Trailer looks good. I'm guessing if you hated Man of Steel you'll probably hate this and if you loved MoS you'll probably love this one. If you were meh on it you'll probably have the same reaction to this one.

Yeah, most likely. Fortunately for me I'm one of the few here who loved the hell out of MOS, so I expect I'll probably do the same with this movie.

Although... I suppose there is the example of the recent Trek movies, where I enjoyed the hell out of the first one and was seriously annoyed by pretty much everything in the sequel...

 

[theenglish]

Apologies if this has already been discussed, but something occurred to me while I was talking to a friend about this; does anyone else think it's odd that this film is supposed to lead into the formation of the Justice League, yet they've gone with an older Batman? Sure, he's probably still a badass, and has a lot of gadgets to fall back on, but I wouldn't expect that Batman to be able to do much up against Darkseid or Brainiac.

Also, has anyone actually confirmed how long after MoS this film takes place?

That's a longer conversation but a 'at his peak' Batman shouldn't be able to so much against Darkseid either so I don't see that as an issue.

One of the problems over the last two decade or so is the way that regardless of power levels characters who should not fight directly do - I remember a Batman/Superman story for a few years ago where he's in a straight up fist-fight with Darkseid - it was pretty dumb.

Alan Moore had this right idea thirty years ago where in a fight between Wonder Woman and Mongul with Robin asking "shouldn't we help?" Batman replies "No that's completely out of our league" and instead spends his time on something useful.

Final Crisis on the other hand showed Batman defeating Darkseid by using his wits.

An older Batman would be an excellent team leader for a new Justice League. That said, I wonder how the new movie will deal with the fact that Batman had been around for years prior to Man of Steel. I guess there probably just wasn't a moment in that film to acknowledge the presence of other costumed heroes.

 

[Gaith]

If repercussions can't be expected to be followed up on within the same movie (and are, in fact, all but seemingly erased as people look up in awe at him and say "he saved us" while Clark is able to joke around in an undamaged Daily Planet in an undamaged Metropolis), why should that be any different for the sequel?

Why shouldn't it?

Sorry, that movie was over. Any attempt to "address" those issues in a brief denouement would have to have been dismissive and diminished their importance at best, though it might have served as a sop to the nitpickers.

You're both off the mark. The jokey, lighthearted last scene of MOS was a stupid mistake, one the new movie seems to be implicitly ignoring. Sometimes good sequels make subtle continuity tweaks, and that's nothing to sneer at. (See: the revamped and improved Hogwarts architecture and landscape in the post-Columbus HP films.)

So we shouldn't fault Snyder from distancing himself from the implications of that scene, but neither should we pretend it was any kind of sensible coda to the horrific devastation which preceded it.

 

[kirk55555]

Trailer looks good. I'm guessing if you hated Man of Steel you'll probably hate this and if you loved MoS you'll probably love this one. If you were meh on it you'll probably have the same reaction to this one.

Yeah, most likely. Fortunately for me I'm one of the few here who loved the hell out of MOS, so I expect I'll probably do the same with this movie.

Although... I suppose there is the example of the recent Trek movies, where I enjoyed the hell out of the first one and was seriously annoyed by pretty much everything in the sequel...

For Man of Steel, I wasn't a fan on first viewing, then I warmed up to it a bit on the second, and after the third I'd say I'm a fan of it. It has flaws, some big, but after going through it a few times I do enjoy it. So, I'm at least hoping that BvS is going to be awesome.

Also, its funny that you mention the New trek films, because with the new Trek films I loathe the first one, but after repeat viewings the second one has grown on me to the point where I like it

 

[M'rk son of Mogh]

I have to admit, for me at least, that Batman suit looks like it's the best live action representation on screen yet. Finally, no more silly "realistic Kevlar and armour" suit. Still don't care for the Superman suit, but I'm loving the Batman one.

 

[davejames]

You're both off the mark. The jokey, lighthearted last scene of MOS was a stupid mistake, one the new movie seems to be implicitly ignoring. Sometimes good sequels make subtle continuity tweaks, and that's nothing to sneer at. (See: the revamped and improved Hogwarts architecture and landscape in the post-Columbus HP films.)

So we shouldn't fault Snyder from distancing himself from the implications of that scene, but neither should we pretend it was any kind of sensible coda to the horrific devastation which preceded it.

I won't deny that last scene was a bit more lighthearted than it should have been (or there should have at least been a more natural buildup towards it first), but I'm still hoping we get at least a few moments of that lightheartedness in the sequel as well.

And that it's not just all gloom and doom and people being bitter and angry over the events of MOS. Because I think that would also get a bit tiresome.

 

[theenglish]

You're both off the mark. The jokey, lighthearted last scene of MOS was a stupid mistake, one the new movie seems to be implicitly ignoring. Sometimes good sequels make subtle continuity tweaks, and that's nothing to sneer at. (See: the revamped and improved Hogwarts architecture and landscape in the post-Columbus HP films.)

So we shouldn't fault Snyder from distancing himself from the implications of that scene, but neither should we pretend it was any kind of sensible coda to the horrific devastation which preceded it.

I won't deny that last scene was a bit more lighthearted than it should have been (or there should have at least been a more natural buildup towards it first), but I'm still hoping we get at least a few moments of that lightheartedness in the sequel as well.

And that it's not just all gloom and doom and people being bitter and angry over the events of MOS. Because I think that would also get a bit tiresome.

Instead of Superman meeting with the military at the end, that time should have been used to show Lois reporting on how the Man of Steel is helping rebuild the city as the people are rebuilding their lives. That would have provided are better segue into the final scene. It would have acknowledge the death and destruction of Metropolis while providing a sense of Superman becoming Superman, and it would have had nice thematic closure as it would have been a balance for Lois' investigation at the beginning of the film. It also would have set the stage for the savior/satan theme addressed in the new trailer.

This has happened several times in the comics. Superman spent time rebuilding Metropolis after his return to life back in the nineties (and then again a short time later after Luthor destroyed a large portion of it)--for example.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I like the new Batmobile. It looks like a mix of the tumbler and the 89' Batmobile. I still prefer the 89' Batmobile, but I like this better than the tumbler.

 

[Mudd]

You're both off the mark. The jokey, lighthearted last scene of MOS was a stupid mistake.

Nope, sorry.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

From the IMAX preview