‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

[CorporalCaptain]

I think that the Arrowverse is somewhat gritty—which, of course, means also somewhat other than gritty—but the Arrowverse is anything but grounded.

As for the BvS: DoJ trailer, I thought it was pretty good. It definitely piqued my interest, which is pretty high praise for a trailer.

 

[Mudd]

It's funny, because this is really a better-made movie trailer than the Star Wars thing it's being negatively compared to.

If one hasn't seen Star Wars (as, I discovered, someone close to me never has!) that trailer is a disassociated series of images which other than BB-8 don't come close to being "wowee!" state-of-the art effects work, no storyline apparent and meaningless dialogue.

If, like most of us, one has seen Star Wars the trailer works because it's nostalgia-drenched. A crashed star destroyer, a brief appearance by R2-D2, Luke Skywalker's voice, a group of resurgent stormtroopers before a more-or-less Imperial banner, and capped off by Han Solo - wonderful, and all images that depend upon the context of familiarity to be moving or exciting at all.

 

[Magellan]

It's funny, because this is really a better-made movie trailer than the Star Wars thing it's being negatively compared to.

If one hasn't seen Star Wars (as, I discovered, someone close to me never has!) that trailer is a disassociated series of images which other than BB-8 don't come close to being "wowee!" state-of-the art effects work, no storyline apparent and meaningless dialogue.

If, like most of us, one has seen Star Wars the trailer works because it's nostalgia-drenched. A crashed star destroyer, a brief appearance by R2-D2, Luke Skywalker's voice, a group of resurgent stormtroopers before a more-or-less Imperial banner, and capped off by Han Solo - wonderful, and all images that depend upon the context of familiarity to be moving or exciting at all.

Gotta totally agree with this. The Star Wars trailer was a smart play because it does seem to have really hyped up the fanbase, but someone like me who soured on Star Wars back in '99 it was just ok. Nothing really bad in it, but I've got no idea what the movie will be about from what I saw.

Now the Batman v Superman trailer actually got me pretty interested and I really did not like Man of Steel. I feel like I have at least a clue of what this movie will be about.

Of course good trailer=/= good movie at all *ahem* Godzilla

 

[The Old Mixer]

Nothing really bad in it, but I've got no idea what the movie will be about from what I saw.

It's the story of a boy, a girl, and a universe.

 

[davejames]

What the WB did, as we should expect any corporation not run by creatives to do, is look at a series of successes (Nolan's TDK trilogy) was decide that any future success can only be had if it follows the formulae of the previous successes.

Oh please, Marvel is following just as much of a formula with their movies (villains who are all chasing after some all-powerful magic stone, heroes who all start out bickering with each other, major characters who die and then often come back, lots of one-liners and snarky dialogue, etc).

Obviously it's a formula that works really well for them, but it's still a formula.

 

[JD]

Arrowverse it is then.

The reason I hesitate to embrace that is that, even though Arrow was the show that started it all, I feel that The Flash is more representative of what it's becoming. Arrow is still basically a grounded, gritty show about vigilantes and spies and assassins, while The Flash and Team Series to Be Named Later are fully embracing a more fun, larger-than-life fantasy world filled with superpowered characters. So I feel the universe is growing beyond Arrow at this point, and could easily survive its loss if it came to an end (well, as long as Felicity moved to one of the other shows, since she's totally the linchpin of the entire superhero community at this point).

Hey, that's it! It's the Felicityverse!

I've literally never once heard referred to as anything other than the Arrowverse.

 

[Mach5]

Arrow is still basically a grounded, gritty show about vigilantes and spies and assassins

It stopped being that about half way through season two. It's a childish fantasy show now.

 

[beamMe]

Of course good trailer=/= good movie at all *ahem* Godzilla

Agreed. The trailers for that one where meh, but the film was good.

Or did you mean something else?

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Arrow is still basically a grounded, gritty show about vigilantes and spies and assassins

It stopped being that about half way through season two. It's a childish fantasy show now.

Dude, it's all grounded in reality. Why, just the other day I hopped in my backyard Lazarus Pit and it took years off these old bones. I really needed it too, because I got stabbed through the heart and pushed off a 700 ft. cliff at work. Grrr, Mondays.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMI6B734Ew4[/yt]

 

[Christopher]

Arrow is still basically a grounded, gritty show about vigilantes and spies and assassins

It stopped being that about half way through season two. It's a childish fantasy show now.

First off, equating fantasy with "childishness" is ridiculous, ignorant, and needlessly condescending, and particularly hypocritical from someone using a Star Wars avatar. Second, yes, although they have injected some fantasy elements, its stories are still largely driven by darker subject matters than The Flash is or than the new spinoff is likely to be, and its regular characters are still basically unpowered.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Arrow is still basically a grounded, gritty show about vigilantes and spies and assassins

It stopped being that about half way through season two. It's a childish fantasy show now.

First off, equating fantasy with "childishness" is ridiculous, ignorant, and needlessly condescending, and particularly hypocritical from someone using a Star Wars avatar.

Overreact much? I guess you're just being needfully condescending then. It was one word. If you disagree with the word use that's one thing, but you get so damn worked up over it.

 

[Mach5]

Arrow is still basically a grounded, gritty show about vigilantes and spies and assassins

It stopped being that about half way through season two. It's a childish fantasy show now.

First off, equating fantasy with "childishness" is ridiculous, ignorant, and needlessly condescending,

Equating fantasy with "childishness"?

I did no such thing.

Also, there's nothing necessarily wrong with fantasy being childish. I happen to be one of those few who aren't afraid to admit they enjoyed The Phantom Menace. Come at me, bro.

 

[Captaindemotion]

I wouldn't agree that Arrow is childish fantasy but neither did I interpret Mach5's post to equate fantasy with childishness. But there is such a thing as childish fantasy, such as The Chronicles of Narnia, just as there is fantasy which is strictly for adults, such as George RR Martin's Westeros material.

I certainly wouldn't regard 'childish fantasy' as automatically being a derogatory description either.

Ps I liked TPM too!

 

[Mudd]

Accurately observing that much - okay, most - popular fantasy is childish and/or adolescent is not "equating" the two. There's no point in being touchy about it.

 

[JoeZhang]

It's about a trust fund billionaire who gives a shit about the rest of us - i couldn't think of a more childish far-fetched fantasy*




* this is a gag, we don't need a long debate about it.

 

[Captaindemotion]

It's about a trust fund billionaire who gives a shit about the rest of us - i couldn't think of a more childish far-fetched fantasy*




* this is a gag, we don't need a long debate about it.

 

[Mudd]

 

[Nightowl1701]

Supposedly from the set of the Wayne family graveyard, courtesy of Bleeding Cool...

Spoiler: Brace yourselves, Batfans...

Dick move, WB. Literally.

 

[Mudd]

Makes sense.