The inclusion of one legacy character hardly means the show isn't meant to stand on its own.
What happened to Batel in New Life and New Civilizations?
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Thank you. Sometimes I think the anti-returning elements people have lost the plot with apparently any follow up being a failure of storytelling.
Failure of creativity maybe.
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(Worf was added in an attempt to boost ratings and I'm sure the EMH character's inclusion in SFA is for the same reason.)
That still doesn't mean that the show isn't meant to stand on its own.
Probably so. Ultimately, it will be how they use the character to see what happens. SNW utilizes legacy characters pretty well. DS9 was mixed, but did ok. TNG was deeply mixed, with only really Unification utilizing Spock well, and Sarek using, um, Sarek well. Though, sadly fucking up Spock and Sarek's improved relationship in the process
But, as for SFA, the Doctor is more than enough of a character and adding in Batel would be tough.
I interpret Batel's statue existence somewhat more positively, based on that shooting star Pike sees at the end, after it had recurred as a motif throughout the Inner Light timeline. On some level, her powers as the Beholder do allow her access to the universe outside the chamber. She's existing in a way that's more "positive ascension into a higher plane", and not just "standing frozen alone in a creepy chamber for eternity."
I'm also viewing the Inner Light reality as the birth of an alternate timeline that kept running after. Otherwise, it's too cruel and devastating for Pike for their child to just be erased.
I'm also viewing the Inner Light reality as the birth of an alternate timeline that kept running after. Otherwise, it's too cruel and devastating for Pike for their child to just be erased.
Boosting ratings for a show that hasn't started yet nor nor will follow the traditional ratings standards.
Donna Noble has been saved.
"Captain, the universe is safe."
"For you and me. But what of Batel?"
Somebody has to stand watch to keep the Darkness (Vezda) Locked Up & Prevented from harming normal society.
I'm not sure you remember what happened so well to Kes.
She was toxic.
Her brain was melting the ship.
If Kes had stayed, everyone would have died.
Her departure was not a choice, between the greater good and being selfish... Well I suppose she could have tried to stay as the ship exploded into a million pieces and the crew had to figure out how to breathe in a vacuum, but Janeway would have told the Doctor's studious little nurse to "Git" well before that point, or shot Kes dead (again) just before structural integrity gave out, once they were absolutely sure she would not see reason.
When Kes left she was not greeted into a pantheon of ascended beings, even going home didn't workout, our favourite Ocampa just floated around until she became senile, then traveled back in time and tried to kill everyone twice because she blamed all her poor choices on Janeway.
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Lady became a statue. No work, no responsibility, just stand there for millennia in this weird timeless void.
I was asleep by that point.
So it's nice to see what I missed out on.
Although, it's nice for Pike to get used to living in someone elses make believe, since that is his real final fate... Was that supposed to be something we got out of that holodeck story set in the 60s too?
Although, the stylistic differences between TOS and SNWs... How do we not already know that everything we've seen since Discovery hasn't been dinner theatre on Talos IV?
Oh! The Lower Decks crossover is how we know that SNW is real?
Sweet.
Thank you.
Good to know.
But is now trapped in an itty-bitty living space.
It's bigger on the inside.
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