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Dwarf planet.Whenever I see Vulcan's moons in TMP, I see pineapple and a cherry.
As far as I'm concerned TMP overrules "The Man Trap". I believe what I see not what I hear. And sometimes Pluto is a planet, sometimes it's a moon. So maybe in 2266 Vulcan's moon was a planet -- and what the Hell am I talking about?
Now I got dragged into a canon debate about Vulcan's moons!
Is the bigger object Delta Vega?
162 is pretty young for a Vulcan to die. I suspect the Human half of his biology is at fault.
But it isn't VOY...it's VGR.
So then, following your line of reasoning here...why wouldn't the Enterprise's configuration and uniforms in "The Cage" fall under the exact same caveat?
I quite agree with your thrust, but I would say adding in new information that recontextualizes our view of what we've already seen is still a form of revisionism. But that's only natural, and so far, I very much enjoy the revisions they've made! Spock's "family arc" has only continued to gain richness and depth as "Yesteryear" (TAS), films III-V, "Sarek" and "Unification" (TNG), and now DSC (particularly "Battle At The Binary Stars" and "Lethe") have all in turn revised our view of the scenario we were initially presented with in "Journey To Babel" (TOS), which itself had been gradually built up to from the beginning of the show.
I definitely don't want to see this series handed over to Spock from Burnham. But I have little fear that is what they have in store for us. They seem to know what they're about, to me.
"Lethe" (DSC) finally gave us the answer. That's neighboring Eridani D and its moon, where Amanda took Michael for a book exchange on her tenth birthday. (Seems likely to me, anyway. Why else would they put it back after the Director's Edition removed it?)You mean in the same way that Spock told Uhura "Vulcan has no moon..." in TOS S1 - "The Man Trap" yet in ST:TMP (overseen by the great bird GR himself) in 1979, we get this shot of Vulcan:
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Tell, me what are those TWO things in the upper right corner?
It was there in "Yesteryear" (TAS) as well!
(Of course, the old joke used to be that Vulcan has no moon...because Vulcan is a moon!)
-MMoM
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But humans can live for quite a long time in that period as well.
No, something is fishy.
I can't believe Kutzman is gonna make Spock emotional. He said Spock will be there with all his characteristics and style. But at the same time very different from the Spock we all know. An earlier more emotional Spock..
Talk about revisionism. Not good
I was hopeful till I read that!
Talk about revisionism. Not good
I was hopeful till I read that!
Huh? I guess you forgot this shot from TOS S1 "The Cage"/"The Menagerie":
Or if you want the scene in full context:
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Spock WAS more emotional in the "Pike Era".
They're not going to follow up everything from the novels. Stop acting like they're equal.
If the show runners want to tell their own version as to why, they will.
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He was also a bit more emotional in 'Where no Man has gone before'. But I chalk that up as early weirdness. Data was the same way in TNG season 1, he had more emotion.
Like anything else, it comes down to the quality of the writing. Based on season one, I have my doubts they will be able to successfully pull it off. But, I like what Kurtzman did with Spock in the first two Abrams films.
So, we'll see.
Season 1 also had a rough start. Have any of the writers changed from Season 1?
No one has any idea how much of what we're getting are from Berg, Harberts and Goldsman. I don't think there we're any other major changes?
Well, I think that it would match the visual evidence better. The big planet is a gas giant, and Vulcan and the small planetoid are its moons. I'm no expert, but I have hard time imagining that two planets in separate orbits would come that close, or if it is a twin-planet arrangement, the moon could maintain any reasonable orbit with them.
Spock's always been emotional.
"Lethe" (DSC) finally gave us the answer. That's neighboring Eridani D and its moon, where Amanda took Michael for a book exchange on her tenth birthday. (Seems likely to me, anyway. Why else would they put it back after the Director's Edition removed it?)
It was there in "Yesteryear" (TAS) as well!
(Of course, the old joke used to be that Vulcan has no moon...because Vulcan is a moon!)
-MMoM
Thanks!
Spock is half human, while he has embraced his Vulcan heritage it would be, I dare say, illogical for him to deny that he has a human half. But working with humans I think brought so many challenges to him. I think he enjoyed working in the science dept (working his way up to heading it and being science officer and then first officer) but 'putting up' with emotional humans and trying to block those emotions from affecting him from a telepathic and maybe empathic view was a learning curve for him. I think it wasn't until he made friends with Jim and McCoy (and with other crew like Uhura and Sulu and Scotty, etc) that he felt like he had a home on the Enterprise and was part of a family.
We have Spock from TOS, more toward the logical Vulcan side.
We have Spock from Kelvinverse, more toward the emotional Human side.
Kurtzman says Spock in Discovery is going to be very, very different.
Considering the two 'versions' that we already have, what is left?
What is left to make him so different? Different from what?
We have Spock from Kelvinverse, more toward the emotional Human side.
Kurtzman says Spock in Discovery is going to be very, very different.
Considering the two 'versions' that we already have, what is left?
What is left to make him so different? Different from what?
Different than fan expectation.
I ' m pretty meh on DSC, but I think they should let it be its own thing. Al most seems like tptb don't think it strong enough without all the TOS stuff.
i know I a m in the minority, but I don' t really want family dynamics drama/melodrama. I would like strange, new worlds, moral conundrums, what-ifs, allegories, you know, star trek.
i know I a m in the minority, but I don' t really want family dynamics drama/melodrama. I would like strange, new worlds, moral conundrums, what-ifs, allegories, you know, star trek.
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