Marvel seems to have figured out that no idea is too ridiculous for an audience as long as you feed it to them gradually. Now that we've had the transitional phase in Cap 2, they can totally stick him in a robot body in the third one.
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I think he downloaded himself onto the drive Black Widow used. She removed it before the destruction of the computers. My guess is a back up copy of Zola made it onto the drive.
I'm looking forward to that.
His first appearance in First Avenger through the lens really reminded me of his big face on the chest of his body, and the camera on top of the computer bank in Winter Soldier reminded my of the "head" of that body. So I think he will be back, with that kind of body, if not exactly the orange and purple color scheme in the books.
I'm thinking that Loki's staff is the Mind gem. It doesn't make sense for tesseract energy to allow Loki to subjugate another person's will as he did in Avengers; and Baron Von Strucker could now be using the staff to unlock the potential of the human mind (i.e. Telekinesis, premonition, and even super speed and reality control).
I dunno if the Chitauri are slaves or not. In The Avengers the Other referred to them as getting "restless". In the first episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Grant Ward recovers a "Chitauri neural link" from an illegal arms dealer who presumably salvaged it from New York.
According to the comic Thor: The Dark World Prelude, Frigga used Asgardian telepathy/sorcery/whatever to communicate with Loki and told everyone else that he was plotting something to do with the Tesseract. Then once he transported to Earth, Heimdall saw him and alerted Thor.
How much can Heimdall see, anyway? He can monitor anyone on Earth, but he couldn't see Jane when she accidentally walked into Svartalfheim. But his vision must be at least as good as the Bifrost's range, which is pretty anywhere, right? Sif and Volstagg had to have used superluminal transportation to get to the Collector's museum. And Sif has personally encountered Interdites, Levians, Pheragots, Kree, Sarks, and Centaurians before.
Say, in the comics is Ronan aligned with Thanos?
So Thanos gives Loki one Infinity Stone in order to acquire another? That seems like a risky maneuver. And Volstagg and Sif clearly knew about the Infinity Stones when they handed the Aether to the Collector. So presumably Thor as crown prince of Asgard must know as well. Why didn't he recognize the scepter as an Infinity Stone? And if it's "Infinity", then why didn't it work on Stark?
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Why would its status as an Infinity Stone affect whether it would work on Stark one way or the other.
Just because they eventually learned the Tesseract was an Infinity Stone doesn't mean they knew it at the time (also, I haven't seen any indication one way or the other about whether Loki knew either was an Infinity Stone. If the staff was one, he may have known).
Just because they eventually learned the Tesseract was an Infinity Stone doesn't mean they knew it at the time (also, I haven't seen any indication one way or the other about whether Loki knew either was an Infinity Stone. If the staff was one, he may have known).
^Exactly, you even hear the clink as he keeps tapping it, it needs to touch skin or the fabric over the skin, something thin or light. The toughened glass or metal of the reactor and housing would block it.
Also, if we take the notebook in Iron Man 2 as a nod to the Tesseract being worked on by Howard, that the element he left for Tony to discover was something born of his working on it, a material quite like it, they may not be able to affect each other that way.
Also, if we take the notebook in Iron Man 2 as a nod to the Tesseract being worked on by Howard, that the element he left for Tony to discover was something born of his working on it, a material quite like it, they may not be able to affect each other that way.
Pretty much this, but my impression was also that it only worked if you stabbed people in the heart.
Now that Peggy Carter's show is going forward and also she is established in CATWS that she is still alive, do you think the show being set back in the 40s and 50s can lead up to a modern day, miracle drug rejuvination of Peggy in the modern time?
In a universe with GH 325, it could be done.
In a universe with GH 325, it could be done.
I'm not too caught up on Thanos' or the Kree's history. I also read the Infinity War when I was a kid so I could be mistaking a few things.
I was thinking more along the lines of how Thor found out Loki was leading, though to be fair I wasn't clear on that point.
Still I suppose Heimdall is an easy way to explain how Asgard know *anything* the plot needs them too. Bit of a cheat though.
Mind you, I was under the impression that his sight was limited to only nine realms (which I read as 9 star systems since "10 trillion souls" is way too small a number for whole galaxies.) Hence his not being able to see Jane when she was in that place where the ether was hidden.
That is certainly a commonly held theory with much to recommend it. Time will tell though.
A chained dog can still get restless, especially if it's been bred for war and is stuck waiting for the shooting to start. That's the difference between a slave and a drone. Slaves have no choice, but they still have minds of their own.
Think Deathlok or the other Centepede soldiers, but on a MASSIVE scale and about 10,000 year more technologically advanced.
I assumed it didn't work on him because the element in his Mk3 reactor is a recreation of the element the tesseract is made of. I mean, where else would Howard Stark have encountered an element with limitless energy producing capabilities that doesn't exist anywhere in nature?
Selvig said the cube can't protect against itself, which seems to mean that the stones cannot defend against each other. It would certainly account for how the staff was able to shut down the portal.
Indeed the staff's gem being another infinity stone may have been a necessity to open the tesseract from the other side to get Loki through in the first place. They resonate off each other somehow. Also a good explanation as to how Thanos detected the tesseract on Earth once they started monkeying around with it. Makes one wonder though why he didn't pick up on it back in the 40's.
I have a feeling that Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s success (of season 2) will determine if SHIELD returns to the movies or not.
I assumed the staff was made of the tesseract years before Red Skull came in possession of it. I also assumed the staff's original owner (before Loki, Thanos, or the Chitauri obtained it) hid the gem on earth for it's protection. As for why Thanos didn't sense the tesseract in CA:TFA and did see it in Avengers, he simply didn't have the staff yet.
I assumed the staff was made of the tesseract years before Red Skull came in possession of it. I also assumed the staff's original owner (before Loki, Thanos, or the Chitauri obtained it) hid the gem on earth for it's protection. As for why Thanos didn't sense the tesseract in CA:TFA and did see it in Avengers, he simply didn't have the staff yet.
I wonder if Thanos is going to deploy an army of Chitauri or Kree to attack Asgard and seize the Tesseract.
That is certainly one interpretation, but it fails to account for the ability to instantaneously alter a person's mind. All other tesseract based technology we've seen has been purely based around energy generation.
The staff being the mind gem on the other hand, accounts for this and everything else just fine.
The original owner (in my assumption) simply knew how to manipulate it's energy in that form. The tesseract is also capable of (and probably not limited to) making energy guns, bombs, force fields, teleporting individuals, and opening portals. It also has the ability to burn through certain metals on contact but not through living tissue so it may have properties that react to the living.
Maybe he did. Isn't Thanos 2000+ years old? 70 years might be like a few months to him.
I'm still wondering where the Red Skull ended up. Did he pop out where Thanos is? I really don't think he was killed, but transported somewhere. Maybe he was why Thanos knew the tesseract was on Earth.
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There are arguments either way.
If it is the Mind stone, well no other explanation needed for how it works.
If it isn't, it was fitted to Loki's trickster staff, Asgardian technology he developed himself that could 'trick' people and create minor illusions, fool the mind. Given Tesseract energy to boost that if could potentially do what we saw. Since a lot of what he did with the staff were extensions of powers we saw him use in Thor.
If it is the Mind stone, well no other explanation needed for how it works.
If it isn't, it was fitted to Loki's trickster staff, Asgardian technology he developed himself that could 'trick' people and create minor illusions, fool the mind. Given Tesseract energy to boost that if could potentially do what we saw. Since a lot of what he did with the staff were extensions of powers we saw him use in Thor.
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