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I love Nichelle Nichols, but I think we saw too little of the character to know how she would've reacted to things around her when she was a decade younger.

Technically speaking, when she was a decade younger she should be, like, fourteen or fifteen, since the character we saw in TOS was in her mid-twenties. :p

The Uhura we met in ST09 I could see going on a mission with. The Uhura from STiD, less so.
 
Technically speaking, when she was a decade younger she should be, like, fourteen or fifteen, since the character we saw in TOS was in her mid-twenties. :p

Well Nichols herself was in her early-thirties (32-33) when she started on TOS. Do we have any material that says what her age was suppose to be during the series?
 
Technically speaking, when she was a decade younger she should be, like, fourteen or fifteen, since the character we saw in TOS was in her mid-twenties. :p

Well Nichols herself was in her early-thirties (32-33) when she started on TOS. Do we have any material that says what her age was suppose to be during the series?

No, not precisely. She's supposed to have been born sometimes in the 2230s according to Memory Alpha, so that could just as easily put her in her late twenties, I guess. (Or older, but it would seem weird for the character to be older than Kirk for some reason.)
 
Technically speaking, when she was a decade younger she should be, like, fourteen or fifteen, since the character we saw in TOS was in her mid-twenties. :p

Well Nichols herself was in her early-thirties (32-33) when she started on TOS. Do we have any material that says what her age was suppose to be during the series?

No, not precisely. She's supposed to have been born sometimes in the 2230s according to Memory Alpha, so that could just as easily put her in her late twenties, I guess. (Or older, but it would seem weird for the character to be older than Kirk for some reason.)

Perhaps Starfleet wasn't her first career choice?
 
Well Nichols herself was in her early-thirties (32-33) when she started on TOS. Do we have any material that says what her age was suppose to be during the series?

No, not precisely. She's supposed to have been born sometimes in the 2230s according to Memory Alpha, so that could just as easily put her in her late twenties, I guess. (Or older, but it would seem weird for the character to be older than Kirk for some reason.)

Perhaps Starfleet wasn't her first career choice?

Could be, I guess.

(I remember one of the novels had her hunting robotic lions on the veldt, which was pretty darn silly... but now my mind goes to that mental image when I think of pre-Starfleet Uhura. )
 
No, not precisely. She's supposed to have been born sometimes in the 2230s according to Memory Alpha, so that could just as easily put her in her late twenties, I guess. (Or older, but it would seem weird for the character to be older than Kirk for some reason.)

Perhaps Starfleet wasn't her first career choice?

Could be, I guess.

(I remember one of the novels had her hunting robotic lions on the veldt, which was pretty darn silly... but now my mind goes to that mental image when I think of pre-Starfleet Uhura. )

Either that or support personnel simply don't get promoted nearly as often as other branches? Scotty has to be, at least, a twenty-year veteran of Starfleet during TOS and is only a Lieutenant Commander.
 
It's also not clear if Starfleet had enlisted men vs. commissioned officers in TOS, although there are hints that they do (occasional references to "chief" which would be consistent with having Chief Petty Officers). Someone in engineering could easily serve for some years as an enlisted man before acquiring a commission.
 
Young Uhura hunting a robotic lion is in one of Alan Dean Foster's TAS adaptations. She's a teen at the time I believe.
 
^ Though the estimable K-DIDdy is technically correct, the other question that will tend to follow from changing, ignoring, rebooting or re-jigging continuity is: is it an improvement? Or if it's doing something entirely new, does the new thing it's doing make sense?

So, the NuTrek characters* are deliberately non-professional: presumably not because Abrams can't direct military professional characters (he can), but because it was felt they'd be relatable to the modern audience this way. But being represented as part of a Navy-esque Starfleet -- even a cartoony version thereof -- that comes at the expense of believability as professionals in their setting. So, it comes down to a question of whether that trade-off works for you.

[* Well, the core trio of Kirk, Spock and Uhura, anyway.]

Yeah, that pretty much sums up one of my problems with the Abrams movies. And the worst part, I know they can depict a professional, properly trained starship crew who prove they know what they're doing and have earned their jobs, since that's exactly what we saw with the crew of the Kelvin in the opening scene of Trek XI. Coincidently enough, that also happened to be the best and most interesting part of Trek XI.

Unfortunately, deliberately unprofessional is the in-thing for Hollywood blockbusters and practically all of them do it. Given the Abrams series basically just ticks off a checklist of what the audience is expected to like (such as KHAN!) this shouldn't be particularly shocking.
 
I think it's out of line to call Saldana's version of the character a "shrew" when there is fifty-years and much societal change between the two versions.
Let me be clear. I would think the same of her even if I had never seen TOS. It's the same reason I don't like Keiko - most of her interactions with her husband is "Myulls, bitchbitchbitch, complain, whine, more bitching."

No, not precisely. She's supposed to have been born sometimes in the 2230s according to Memory Alpha, so that could just as easily put her in her late twenties, I guess. (Or older, but it would seem weird for the character to be older than Kirk for some reason.)
Perhaps Starfleet wasn't her first career choice?
Could be, I guess.

(I remember one of the novels had her hunting robotic lions on the veldt, which was pretty darn silly... but now my mind goes to that mental image when I think of pre-Starfleet Uhura. )
It was a rite of passage, if I recall correctly.

Young Uhura hunting a robotic lion is in one of Alan Dean Foster's TAS adaptations. She's a teen at the time I believe.
Yes, that's the one. "The Slaver Weapon." Came with a bonus body-switching comedy story.
Spock's consciousness ended up in Uhura's body, and Uhura (in Kirk's body) felt it necessary to remind Spock not to get her body pregnant! :lol:
 
It was a rite of passage, if I recall correctly.

Indeed you do: :)

Spock's consciousness ended up in Uhura's body, and Uhura (in Kirk's body) felt it necessary to remind Spock not to get her body pregnant! :lol:

It was actually a pretty fun story. I liked the Klingon villain and the veneer of cordial friendliness he wore in his encounters with Kirk -- it reminded me a little of the Romulan commander from "The Pegasus" (my second-favourite Romulan adversary from that series, just behind Commander Toreth from "Face of the Enemy").
 
. . . could work as long as it still has the feel of Star Trek . . . .

Ay there's the rub. We have different conceptions on this BBS of what that is.

I think JJ missed it. Some think he nailed it.

And nary the twain shall meet.

Nailed it. For every person that thinks it "feels" like Star Trek, there will be another who doesn't.

The novels are a great example of this. I think the current Star Trek and Voyager books "feel" like Star Trek, while I think the current Next Gen and Deep Space Nine books don't. With Enterprise being somewhere in between.
 
If I don't get a fresh STAR TREK series on television - and soon:
I'm gonna go bust!!! :klingon:

Don't do it !!! 2takes - don't do it!!!

Where would we find someone who can make such awesome profile pics?
These words please me ... :cool:
and they do compensate some. All I can say about my next STAR TREK avatar is that I've got the fever for the flavour of a Crowd Pleaser! And nothing would please me more than to see this franchise return to television. But how much longer, CBS? I don't know what my fandom has been living on, since ENTERPRISE closed-up shoppe ... but ... it's not enough to fill me up! STAR TREK knows how we fans love to be teased ... and tantalized. But we have been tantalized enough!!! The Time is Now ... to deliver the goods like we ain't never had it before!!! :vulcan:
 
. . . could work as long as it still has the feel of Star Trek . . . .
Ay there's the rub. We have different conceptions on this BBS of what that is.

I think JJ missed it. Some think he nailed it.

And nary the twain shall meet.
Nailed it. For every person that thinks it "feels" like Star Trek, there will be another who doesn't.

The novels are a great example of this. I think the current Star Trek and Voyager books "feel" like Star Trek, while I think the current Next Gen and Deep Space Nine books don't. With Enterprise being somewhere in between.
Much depends on which author you're talking about, and if they get the characters right. I have re-read a lot of the TOS novels, a few TNG novels, might re-read a couple of the DS9 novels, and still need to get a couple of the Voyager novels before tackling the new batch.
 
If I don't get a fresh STAR TREK series on television - and soon:
I'm gonna go bust!!! :klingon:

Don't do it !!! 2takes - don't do it!!!

Where would we find someone who can make such awesome profile pics?
These words please me ... :cool:
and they do compensate some. All I can say about my next STAR TREK avatar is that I've got the fever for the flavour of a Crowd Pleaser! And nothing would please me more than to see this franchise return to television. But how much longer, CBS? I don't know what my fandom has been living on, since ENTERPRISE closed-up shoppe ... but ... it's not enough to fill me up! STAR TREK knows how we fans love to be teased ... and tantalized. But we have been tantalized enough!!! The Time is Now ... to deliver the goods like we ain't never had it before!!! :vulcan:

Will Smith FTW!

The flavor I get from this thread is that there is not a critical mass of fans who want new Trek on TV. If you cannot get a site full of Trek fans to push for new Trek on TV, then is it possible that you might be able to interest the general public? :confused:
 
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