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J.J. Abrams Almost Human

A bit late to the party but so far i like it, especially the more or less believable extrapolation of technologies that will be in use more than 30 years in the future.

I think Dorian and Kennex (Ealy and Urban) have very good chemistry and the second episode was a foregone conclusion.. it seems that everytime a new device is invented the second thought is how to use it for sex :lol: (but think about how sexbots could revolutionize the entire sex industry and prostitution even though these models seemed to be more at the high end scale).

Looking forward to new episodes and it is one of the few new shows this season where i didn't wander off mid episode or stopped watching altogether (and i don't really like cop or procedural shows).
 
Well, racial casting is certainly okay when it's serves a purpose within the context of the show.
But it's more okay if actors can get cast in any role because of their talent rather than their complexion.

Well, Zoe Saldana was cast as Uhura because she's black and Karl Urban was cast as McCoy because he's white. Jamie Foxx was cast in Django Unchained because he's black and Christoph Waltz was cast in the same movie because he's white. Sometimes the role requires it. Therefore a fully "color-blind" casting process will never be possible. Personally, I do support a color-blind casting in cases where a specific "race" isn't a necessity for the role though.

Now if it turns out to be the case that they really go with a slavery allegory in Almost Human, it might be considered a "soft" example where the casting wasn't absolutely necessary, but done for a purpose nonetheless. Of course it could also turn out to be the other way around... Michael Early was cast "color-blind", but because of his skin color some scenes will create an additional sub-text.

It also occurred to me that they use the line "but not all are created equal" in the show's intro. This could carry a double meaning. On one hand, Dorian is of course different from other android models. On the other hand, the U.S. Declaration of Independence postulated that "all men are created equal", while in practice not all men were treated equal, but rather according to their skin color.

The bottom line is that Dorian is property of the Police Department. He claims that unlike the MX series he was created with a free will and emotions. At the same time, he doesn't even have the freedom to decide when he's concious or unconcious, since he had been deactivated for four years prior to the events of the show. This makes his treatment inherently immoral.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if InSyndicate turns out to be some kind of radical "android's rights" group. The finale scene of Almost Human's pilot episode at the very least implied that they tried to "liberate" an android who's deactivated and in police storage.

Whether I'm correct with my theory will be seen over the course of this season, I guess.
I think you may be reading more into the racial make up of the cast than is actually there. Most likely the actors were chosen for the ability to act their respective roles rather than because their race benefitted or augmented the story.

Like others, I didn't think of the races of the two characters in the scene with Dorian and the doomed sexbot. The irony in the scene had more to do with Dorian being a fellow android rather than a fellow black person. I think you may be confusing the race of the actors with the characters they play.

Respectfully, I would suggest that rather than trying to find some tie in to the story involving the race of the actors or the race of the characters they play, you concentrate more on the more important common question; human or android.
 
Pretty good episode tonight. Think they still need to take some notes from Continuum on doing near future settings.

Anybody catch the "boring conversation anyway" line? :)
 
Hey, guys, let's make a show set 35 years in the future, dealing with a world where androids exist and face extensive prejudice and where technological advances have made crime far more dangerous, and instead of actually exploring any of that stuff, let's just copy Die Hard!

This episode bored me. The plot was predictable, just an ordinary action story with a few superficial high-tech trappings. So far this series has yet to do anything worthwhile with Dorian or the other androids beyond assorted gimmicks about robot powers and anatomy, nothing of note about the prejudice or the social or philosophical issues. I was hoping for Alien Nation with androids, but so far it's been more like the movie of that name than the series, setting up an interesting SF premise and then back-burnering it in favor of hackneyed buddy-cop action.

And what was that thing with the bubblegum? How did it repair Dorian's damage? And why didn't Dorian do that speed-climb-up-the-elevator-shaft thing half an hour sooner instead of languidly ambling up the stairs?

And three episodes in, it remains completely unclear what purpose Minka Kelly serves in this series other than to give us someone gorgeous to look at every so often. She had maybe three lines in this whole episode. They haven't let her do anything interesting since that bit in the pilot where she had cultural insight into the Cambodian gangsters or whoever those were.

This show just isn't working for me at this point.
 
The show reminds me of TekWar now.

Hey, guys, let's make a show set 35 years in the future, dealing with a world where androids exist and face extensive prejudice and where technological advances have made crime far more dangerous, and instead of actually exploring any of that stuff, let's just copy Die Hard!
That's two Die Hard episodes tonight. First The Blacklist, then this.

And what was that thing with the bubblegum?
Yeah, why did he wince when he had to chew the gum. I must have missed something.
 
I liked last weeks episode more than this one. Some of the Dorian/John stuff was positively cringey. The bit at the begining with Dorian's finger -- "I could stick it somewhere else", the siging at the end of the episode. Why is he even an android? Why not just make him human or a suped up human.

The exchange between the two in front of the elevator was some of the worst dialogue I've heard in a while --"we've got to do it" or something like that.

Like others, I'm hoping they are building to some type of arc story even if all it is is prejudice against androids. The cop outside calling the 'droid "dog face" and telling him to get him some water continues to look like they are headed "somewhere".
 
Yeah, this one wasn't that interesting. It was pretty much just a standard bad guys take over an office building/Die Hard story.
 
The worldbuilding on this show is so slapdash. The undercover cop has a phone implanted in his hand... and yet he needs to have a separate subcutaneous "wire" in his abdomen? And the bad guys detect that wire but not the phone implant? And if this is a world where people have cell phones permanently implanted on their persons, aren't "wires" kind of redundant? Wouldn't bad guys now be using electronic jamming instead of just patting people down?

The problem is they're not writing science fiction stories. They're writing run-of-the-mill cop-show plots and tacking on a few futuristic gadgets and trappings. There isn't even anything science-fictional or unusual about the drug or its effects, aside from an irrelevant handwave about its origins.

But those were just disappointments. The ending... where Kennex just murdered the wounded bad guy in cold blood... that's just unconscionable. That's evil. I can't root for someone who'd do that. I'm done with this show.
 
Kennex can torture and murder but can't be see with a geek. In case you didn't know it, posting on a Trek bbs is officially geeky. Which means the joke's on you.

Written by hacks to pander to assholes.
 
Just watched. You're talking about the wounded cop-killing police captain? Who after being wounded brags that he's a captain and will get off and then insults the dead cop/Kennex's friend? Yeah, he deserved to live.
 
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