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The Star Trek Into Darkness teaser trailer is here!

I can just see nuKirk standing in a cave, with Garth on the other end of the communicator..."buried alive...buried alive..."

Kirk: "GAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRTTTTTTHHHHH!!!!!"
 
Garth doesn't seem like much of a villain to me. The whole point of the Enterprise being there was to cure him of his mental illness. Yeah, he attempted genocide before he was captured, and he did some evil stuff when he was in prison, but he seems like such a silly character to turn into a movie villain. Especially since he was never really portrayed as a bad guy as much as someone who was sick.
 
That's the whole point! He's deranged, he's unstable, you still feel compassion for him because there is more to him than just being a dickhead. And he's such a wildly unstable and narcissistic character that any new events in the JJverse could send him over different edges.
 
Totally completely random theory that makes absolutely no sense but maybe makes just enough sense to be plausible.

Cumberbatch is... Mirror Spock!

Into Darkness could be the Mirror Universe.

Instead of an evil goatee, he has an evil British accent!
 
What is all this Garth bashing, the character was awesome.

I can't speak for anybody else but I certainly liked him. He was cheesy and over the top at times, but so was Shatner. And far more frequently. ;)

Garth helped establish some important backstory for the Federation we didn't get before: the Battle of Axanar around 2250 that helped keep the Federation together (we never learned why it happened or the details surrounding the battle) and ensured that humans and Vulcans would be able to continue to serve together "as brothers."
 
Totally completely random theory that makes absolutely no sense but maybe makes just enough sense to be plausible.

Cumberbatch is... Mirror Spock!

But uhh.. he isn't Quinto. Maybe I'm being dense? Maybe Mirror Spock in the JJverse had an unfortunate run in with a targ and his face in toddlerhood?
 
Totally completely random theory that makes absolutely no sense but maybe makes just enough sense to be plausible.

Cumberbatch is... Mirror Spock!

But uhh.. he isn't Quinto. Maybe I'm being dense? Maybe Mirror Spock in the JJverse had an unfortunate run in with a targ and his face in toddlerhood?

Maybe Mirror Spock didn't wear enough sunscreen during his vacation in the crazy hot Vulcan desert.
 
Totally completely random theory that makes absolutely no sense but maybe makes just enough sense to be plausible.

Cumberbatch is... Mirror Spock!

But uhh.. he isn't Quinto. Maybe I'm being dense? Maybe Mirror Spock in the JJverse had an unfortunate run in with a targ and his face in toddlerhood?

Maybe Mirror Spock didn't wear enough sunscreen during his vacation in the crazy hot Vulcan desert.

But he's so pale. Which is why he isn't Khan.
 
But uhh.. he isn't Quinto. Maybe I'm being dense? Maybe Mirror Spock in the JJverse had an unfortunate run in with a targ and his face in toddlerhood?

Maybe Mirror Spock didn't wear enough sunscreen during his vacation in the crazy hot Vulcan desert.

But he's so pale. Which is why he isn't Khan.
There are plenty of reasons why he isn't Khan. For one, his chest isn't full enough.
 
The plus side with using Fleet Captain Garth is that you can't really ruin the character, since he's starting from such a low level of apparent worth. The only way is up.

He's just got such a silly name. I would have a hard time taking a villain named Garth seriously.

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That's lifeguard Lazarus who works at the Starfleet headquarters swimming pool in the Bay area.
 
I think Carol Marcus and Garth are in it. :techman::drool:

If the blonde is Carol Marcus I will be very happy and if the villain is Garth I will be both ecstatic and right.

The blonde is gorgeous and looks like she and NuKirk could produce a much better looking David then what we got the first time round.
What are you talking about? He had a great fashion sense and awesome 80s hair! You can't get any better looking than that.
I always though David was a babe. I had a huge crush on him as a teenager.
 
Totally completely random theory that makes absolutely no sense but maybe makes just enough sense to be plausible.

Cumberbatch is... Mirror Spock!

Into Darkness could be the Mirror Universe.

Instead of an evil goatee, he has an evil British accent!

"...evil British accent..." isn't the word "evil" redundant in that phrase :devil:
 
I'm old enough to remember him being on Square Pegs with Sarah Jessica Parker (CBS, 1982-83). I didn't watch the show regularly but I did see quite a few episodes when it was on the air. Merritt did a better job on the show than Sarah did if you ask me.
 
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