Star Trek: Axanar

[Zod]

Alec

The ship looks amazing! Can't wait to see what you do with this!

 

[CaptainSerek]

Another TOS/Pre TOS film, good luck to you guys.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Pretty cool looking.

 

[Linnear]

Another TOS/Pre TOS film, good luck to you guys.

Yes, 20 years before TOS. But I wouldn't call it just "another" film. :-)

It seems the Enterprise launched in 2245, and that is the year we have set "Axanar", as you will see the Enterprise in spacedock being built and Robert April is a major character, basically Garth's mentor.

Alec

 

[USS Intrepid]

I had to make some decisions about how much to include from FASA. I didn't like "Xenophon" as a name for Garth's ship. The Marklin Class was just a destroyer and I think Garth would have had a true ship of the line. So I changed what FASA came up with, but I give it a nod. Thus the war with the Klingons which has lasted four years.

Ultimately I am not following FASA, but take inspiration from it. Just as FASA took inspiration from "The Final Reflection" by John Ford. Let's face it, that book had a big impact on many of us.

There is a new ebook fan fiction called "The Four Years War" by Stephen Fender. You can find it here.

He does an admirable job taking FASA and putting it in novel form. But Garth's role is minimal, and this was my major problem with the storyline from FASA.

Garth was the role model for Kirk and a whole generation of Starfleet Captains. And while Canon doesn't have The Four Years War in it, we know that Axanar was a major victory that somehow saved the Federation.

So in "Axanar" Garth is the Patton of his day. He is THE guy Stafleet goes to when they plan the major engagement of the war. And that is because he has been kicking ass for four years. He is promoted to Fleet Captain and given command for a battle the Federation hopes will end the war.

Alec

I think that's a perfectly reasonable approach.

 

[Sir Rhosis]

Best of luck.

Sir Rhosis

 

[Linnear]

Well, here are Sean's concept sketches for the costumes so far.

The Male Tunic is two pieces, a black mock turtleneck undershirt, and a tunic that goes over it.

The Female is a one piece jumpsuit over which goes a tunic.

 

[Linnear]

Facebook Page is up.

https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekAxanar

Thanks for all your support.

Alec

 

[Titan Designer]

Here is the Schematics that Tobias Ritcher had to work from. Originally they were separate files, but I decided to combine them into one for this image.

 

[Linnear]

Since there are going to be two fleets fighting at The Battle of Axanar, we are going to need multiple ship classes for each race. For Starfleet, we will be using the Kelvin class, and will be creating 3-5 more ship classes. Same for Klingons.

So we are thinking of running a contest for 3D modelers to design a ship we would use. I ran it by Tobias and he likes the idea. Thought I would run it by you all and see what you guys think.

Alec

 

[Titan Designer]

Since there are going to be two fleets fighting at The Battle of Axanar, we are going to need multiple ship classes for each race. For Starfleet, we will be using the Kelvin class, and will be creating 3-5 more ship classes. Same for Klingons.

So we are thinking of running a contest for 3D modelers to design a ship we would use. I ran it by Tobias and he likes the idea. Thought I would run it by you all and see what you guys think.

Alec

Sounds like an interesting idea. With the kelvin are you going with the jj look or more like the Classic look? As for the fleet that sounds like fun.

 

[Linnear]

Sounds like an interesting idea. With the kelvin are you going with the jj look or more like the Classic look? As for the fleet that sounds like fun.

Tobias already has a Kelvin model and since it is basically canon, we are going with that. Remember, everything up until the point at which the Narada shows up is PRIME timeline.

Alec

 

[GSchnitzer]

Sounds like an interesting idea. With the kelvin are you going with the jj look or more like the Classic look? As for the fleet that sounds like fun.

Tobias already has a Kelvin model and since it is basically canon, we are going with that. Remember, everything up until the point at which the Narada shows up is PRIME timeline.

Alec

Well, everything up unitl 1930 is the same. If and when the Nu-Kirk goes back through the Guardian of Forever, he might make some subtle changes to the time line that make things different from the timeline that Kirk Prime knew. Nu-Kirk might have created something inadvertantly in 1930 that makes everything in the Prime timeline become the J.J. universe. The interference might all have started a couple of centuries earlier, way back in 1930 before the Narada ever showed up.

 

[Linnear]

Well, everything up unitl 1930 is the same. If and when the Nu-Kirk goes back through the Guardian of Forever, he might make some subtle changes to the time line that make things different from the timeline that Kirk Prime knew. Nu-Kirk might have created something inadvertantly in 1930 that makes everything in the Prime timeline become the J.J. universe. The interference might all have started a couple of centuries earlier, way back in 1930 before the Narada ever showed up.

Incorrect. Everything up to 2233 (Arrival of the Narada) is the same. It is all speculation what will or will not happen in the JJverse. In fact one should assume things will NOT happen the way they do in the Prime timeline as we obviously saw in the first new movie and which we will see as Khan appears in the new movie differently.

Fortunately, the head of brand management for Star Trek, who also runs licensing and who is basically in charge of Current canon for CBS was in my warehouse (I am the archivist for Star Trek for CBS) as I read your post and I addressed this with him. He said everything up to 2233 is the same in BOTH timelines and canon.

The whole point is the original "prime" timeline is intact. The new movie created a new timeline totally separate from the "prime" timeline, with the point of divergence being the arrival of the Narada. Things will happen differently in the new universe and obviously already have.

And then one can argue that any interference with the timeline before 2233 by the new universe will create a NEW alternate universe.


Alec

 

[E-DUB]

I have a somewhat different take. My theory is that what we saw at the beginning of "Trek '09" was not the prime universe from TOS but a universe altered by all the time-travely stuff from "Enterprise".

 

[Linnear]

OK, so here is a question we are discussing on the production team.

"Axanar" takes place in 2245, 20 years before TOS (The Enterprise is launched in 2245). We know the Kelvin (2233) is canon. In the "alternate" timeline of JJ verse, we have ships in 2258 that look Kelvin like, but are obviously older than the new Enterprise. So these ships probably were built before 2233, in fact it makes sense that they were.

We at "Axanar" are not bound by any design aesthetic IMHO, but we want to craft one that makes sense in canon. Our interiors will all look like TOS but with changes. So the ships need to look similar to TOS as well as the Kelvin design aesthetic.

Our designs are squarely BETWEEN 2233 and the Kelvin and 2245 and the TOS Enterprise (launched 2245 and so the pinnacle of Starfleet design). I think we are going to go with the ST 09 ships and assume that they are the generation BEFORE the Ares and two generations before Enterprise.

We might even upgrade some of them with Ares style engines.

I would love to hear what people think about this.

Alec

 

[USS Intrepid]

I think that's a fair enough approach. The only thing about the Kelvin era ships I don't particularly like, is that they just seem a bit too big for the era.

 

[Avon]

i'd say don't get hung up about what is canon, what timeline,etc as at this point its all so convoluted as to become tedious.

coolness and a gripping story is what everyone should want ;D

 

[Titan Designer]

I have forwarded a few ideas to Alec and Tobias to look over. The fleet should look cool when fleshed out.

 

[skree]

OK, so here is a question we are discussing on the production team.

"Axanar" takes place in 2245, 20 years before TOS (The Enterprise is launched in 2245). We know the Kelvin (2233) is canon. In the "alternate" timeline of JJ verse, we have ships in 2258 that look Kelvin like, but are obviously older than the new Enterprise. So these ships probably were built before 2233, in fact it makes sense that they were.

We at "Axanar" are not bound by any design aesthetic IMHO, but we want to craft one that makes sense in canon. Our interiors will all look like TOS but with changes. So the ships need to look similar to TOS as well as the Kelvin design aesthetic.

Our designs are squarely BETWEEN 2233 and the Kelvin and 2245 and the TOS Enterprise (launched 2245 and so the pinnacle of Starfleet design). I think we are going to go with the ST 09 ships and assume that they are the generation BEFORE the Ares and two generations before Enterprise.

We might even upgrade some of them with Ares style engines.

I would love to hear what people think about this.

Alec

How about some ships from the Spaceflight Chronology