That was great. I didn't really mind the resolution to the cliff hanger from the last series, there wasn't much else they could have done. It was nice that they had more stuff to do for Mrs. Hudson and Mycroft (now I'm wondering if we'll ever get a scene with Mycroft and Moriarty together) and I loved the montage at the beginning with all the plays on the original stories (and they even put "Sherlock Holmes Baffled" in there; if you don't know it: it's the first film appearance of Holmes and you can watch it on youtube).
Sherlock - Series 2
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OK, had a chance now to read the thread after posting my initial thoughts above, so a few more comments about other people's comments:
- the cliffhanger resolution made perfect sense in context of the story, although when first watching it I also initially wondered why he didn't just kill them. Moriarty was called by Adler, and instantly realised he needed Holmes to solve the Bond Air code. His sadistic sense of humour would have been additionally piqued by the thought of using one Holmes brother to undermine the other. Moriarty is smart enough to process all the data as quickly as Holmes would, so his plotting the outline within seconds is plausible within the story.
- the final scene was a bit daft, admittedly, but the foreshadowing by Mycroft a few moments earlier made it acceptably daft. The litmus test of such daftness is whether you can get the audience to laugh along with it in delight. For me, I did, and it worked.
- agreed 100% with those loving the little homages to the original stories that were dotted throughout, with the twists and puns on the titles, situations and lines.
- the supporting cast are what really make this show work; Cumberbatch is great as Holmes, and remarkably faithful to the books in many ways, but that interpretation utterly depends on the supporting cast for its believability in the modern setting. They're the ones who enable the fantasy to hang together for the viewer. Special kudos to Watson, Molly, Mycroft and Mrs Hudson in this.
Favourite moments?
- ????? popping up on screen when trying to Sherlock Scan Adler. Sherlock thinks he's losing his touch so quickly checks he's still functioning by reading Watson effortlessly.
- Entering the correct safe code, because I figured the solution out the same instant the character did, which is the mark of good writing and acting.
- "Mrs Hudson leave Baker Street? England would fall."
- Moriarty using his famous "Dear me..." line. But to Mycroft.
I could go on; almost every other line was quotable!
- the cliffhanger resolution made perfect sense in context of the story, although when first watching it I also initially wondered why he didn't just kill them. Moriarty was called by Adler, and instantly realised he needed Holmes to solve the Bond Air code. His sadistic sense of humour would have been additionally piqued by the thought of using one Holmes brother to undermine the other. Moriarty is smart enough to process all the data as quickly as Holmes would, so his plotting the outline within seconds is plausible within the story.
- the final scene was a bit daft, admittedly, but the foreshadowing by Mycroft a few moments earlier made it acceptably daft. The litmus test of such daftness is whether you can get the audience to laugh along with it in delight. For me, I did, and it worked.
- agreed 100% with those loving the little homages to the original stories that were dotted throughout, with the twists and puns on the titles, situations and lines.
- the supporting cast are what really make this show work; Cumberbatch is great as Holmes, and remarkably faithful to the books in many ways, but that interpretation utterly depends on the supporting cast for its believability in the modern setting. They're the ones who enable the fantasy to hang together for the viewer. Special kudos to Watson, Molly, Mycroft and Mrs Hudson in this.
Favourite moments?
- ????? popping up on screen when trying to Sherlock Scan Adler. Sherlock thinks he's losing his touch so quickly checks he's still functioning by reading Watson effortlessly.
- Entering the correct safe code, because I figured the solution out the same instant the character did, which is the mark of good writing and acting.
- "Mrs Hudson leave Baker Street? England would fall."
- Moriarty using his famous "Dear me..." line. But to Mycroft.
I could go on; almost every other line was quotable!
Indeed! Jeremy Brett is Sherlock Holmes to me, every time I read the books I see him.
Could anyone make out what Holmes says just before he flips open the booobytrapped safe? It sounded like "______ cameos!"
"Vatican cameos"
"We are in Buckingham Palace, the very heart of the British nation. Sherlock Holmes, put your trousers on."
Which I assume means 'duck your head and body as if you're at prayer' thus avoiding the bullets.
another great line:
"I've never been hired by a client with their own navy."
Same here. As much as I love 'Sherlock' I always think of Brett as my Holmes.
One thing I still cannot figure out is how Sherlock knows the code for the safe? All Irene did was look down.
It's her bust, waist, hip measurements.
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Odd that she can keep her dimensions so standard.
Or does she change the code every other week?
Or does she change the code every other week?
Absolutely brilliant - I see a BAFTA or two in prospect for this season if they can keep up the standard. The next two episodes appear to be based on "The Hound of the Baskervilles" and "The Final Problem" - so I'm expecting an interesting cliffhanger variant for the latter.
Has anyone else pointed out that Mycroft's 'Conventry' solution was much like what the Alan Dale character, Charles, did in Lost, where he arranged for a copy of their Oceanic plane to be crashed at sea, full of corpses, so as to ensure that no-one would find the island?
Is it weird that I immediately recognized the numbers he was entering were here measurements? I guess that means I've seen a lot of women's measurements in my life.
The Coventry trope was also mentioned on Babylon 5. I also learnt that Americans can't pronounce "Coventry" - assuming Bruce Boxleitner is a typical example.
Working in a women's clothing store must be fun!
Is it weird that I immediately recognized the numbers he was entering were here measurements? I guess that means I've seen a lot of women's measurements in my life.
That was a pretty good love story, Sherlock style. I like Irene Adler. I feel bad for Ms. Hooper though. She's really into him and she doesn't seem like the type who will handle his relationship with Adler very well, the way Moneypenny can with James Bond.
Also, the resolution to last season's cliffhanger didn't bother me. The phone call interruption was funny and I liked the revelation that it was Adler.
Also, the resolution to last season's cliffhanger didn't bother me. The phone call interruption was funny and I liked the revelation that it was Adler.
I thought it was odd that the phone read "I AM █ █ █ █ LOCKED", but I never figured that the four spaces completed a word.
I don't know what to make of Moriarty. He's very impish and not very menacing. What we've seen so far, along with comments here make it seem like he'll be a fun character though.Supposed supercriminal? Nope, over the top manchild.
They can't kill her, so there were never any surprises there.
Working in a women's clothing store must be fun!
Is it weird that I immediately recognized the numbers he was entering were here measurements? I guess that means I've seen a lot of women's measurements in my life.
Well, you know, I had those cameras installed in the dressing rooms...