Insurrection not a bad film
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But would Geordi have in fact lost his eyes if the particles in the rings had been collected and the medical treatment distributed across the cosmos, with the treatment also being available in the Enterprise's sickbay?
The medical particles weren't on the planet, but in the rings. Harvesting them was going to cook the planet.
If the Baku were living in a valley on a populated world, and the valley was going to be flooded, say to create a reservoir that would prosper hundreds of thousands of people. What would you want to have happen? Move the Baku to another (similar) valley, leave them in their homes to drown, or simply not create the reservoir?
Actual that conversation did take place, admittedly later than it should have. When Picard explained the situation to the Baku (or too their leaders), the Baku had three choices, they could just abandon the valley to the benefit of countless billions. They could request or demand a price for their departure. Or they could refuse to leave.
The actual decision by the Baku really could not be shown, if they collectively picked one of the first two choices, the movie is basically over then and there.
If they refuse to leave (they never did in the movie), then the audience loses all sympathy for them, because the Baku suddenly become heartless bastards, who place their own health and youth before countless billions of people.
I don't hate INS. I just thought it was fairly run-of-the-mill. I thought the Son'a were intriguing enough and F. Murray Abraham gave a solid performance. I also liked the design of the Son'a vessels.
The comedy was forced. It didn't feel as organic as The Voyage Home, or even Worf's promotion in GEN. I think the movie suffers from a feeling of being insubstantial, even though it dealt with a major issue, the forced resettlement of a people, with tacit Federation support. Also I never got why Data turned off his emotion chip. The thing I liked most was the resurrection of the Riker-Troi relationship. Geordi's eyesight provided perhaps the most emotionally resonant moment.
With a few tweaks, INS could've been a powerful dramatic piece. I also have to admit that part of my disappointment stems from wishing it had featured the Romulans or really been a Dominion War-focused movie. Seeing the Jem'Hadar on the big screen would've been sweet.
The comedy was forced. It didn't feel as organic as The Voyage Home, or even Worf's promotion in GEN. I think the movie suffers from a feeling of being insubstantial, even though it dealt with a major issue, the forced resettlement of a people, with tacit Federation support. Also I never got why Data turned off his emotion chip. The thing I liked most was the resurrection of the Riker-Troi relationship. Geordi's eyesight provided perhaps the most emotionally resonant moment.
With a few tweaks, INS could've been a powerful dramatic piece. I also have to admit that part of my disappointment stems from wishing it had featured the Romulans or really been a Dominion War-focused movie. Seeing the Jem'Hadar on the big screen would've been sweet.
Which is exactly what he didn't want.
Why couldn't the treatment continued to be applied to the Ba'ku once they were moved away from the Briar Patch?
Hell... if Picard hadn't stuck his nose where it didn't belong, the Ba'ku could've been moved and treatments could have secretly been administered to keep them young.
And the rest of the Federation could've benefited as well.
Wasn't the expulsion of the Son'a from the planet by the Baku also a death sentence? Especially when it's a PLANET and there was no reason to expel them off it, they could have just exiled them from the village and had them live somewhere else.
But of course the Baku are the designated "good guys" who are beautiful Luddites that spout New Agey cliches, so it's cool when they do it.
But of course the Baku are the designated "good guys" who are beautiful Luddites that spout New Agey cliches, so it's cool when they do it.
It's been a while since I saw the movie but I seem to recall they chose to leave on their own accord.
So the Son'a are telling the truth? The Ba'ku? Or does the truth lir somewhere in between? At any rate a moratorium should should have been placed until such times as "ownership" or "Mining rights" were established at law, as the planet clearly was NOT "terra nullius".
They didn't hoard the particles for themselves. They were just living there.
wow, you really do interpret things in the most charitable manner for the Baku, don't you? I notice that when the battle began in the movie, the leaders of the Baku didn't exactly jump on the idea of calling the whole thing off in order to share the resources of the planet.
As T'Girl pointed out, the reason we didn't see a scene where the Baku explicitly reject resettlement elsewhere to enable the sharing of the resources was because it would've made them even less sympathetic than they already were.
there's a reason why they didn't go public about what they found on the planet when they crashed their three hundred years ago.
If they were expelling people off-world who disagreed with their philosophy, then they were hoarding the resources.
The Ba'ku were every bit as evil as the Son'a, but they were white and pretty.
