Most disturbing scene in star trek?

[Nerys Ghemor]

I was glad to see that go, too. But the way they did it was very natural, considering that McCoy actually had Spock's katra in him, and then, later, showed clear worry for Spock in Trek IV. You could see that it was tearing him up inside to see the reborn Spock rejecting--or seeming not to understand--the human side he'd come to know over time. I think that was a real maturing event for McCoy as well as for Spock: it's hard to make mean comments about someone whom you have linked with in that way.

 

[Greg Cox]

And I kind of think that the last few appearances we see of Spock, especially in Trek XI, make him really seem like a blend of Vulcan and human rather than living according to wholly Vulcan ideals, at least when you consider the other Vulcans we saw.

Indeed. After TMP, he seems to be much more at peace with himself and his hybrid nature than previously. It seems natural that by the time we get to XI he is about 50/50 Vulcan/Human.

Indeed. One of the few good moments in STV is when Sybok tries to exploit Spock's angst over his halfbreed heritage, but fails because Spock has long since come to accept who he is.

It was a nice acknowledgment on how the character had evolved over the course of the films.

And, of course, in STVI you have him trying to explain to Valeris that logic is only the beginning of wisdom . . . .

 

[Anwar]

Too bad the movies seemed to mess up with Kirk. I really have a hard time time thinking that Kirk would REALLY wish the entire Klingon species be wiped out for killing his son, especially when he had no problems working with the Klingons in STV.

Picard and the Borg, I can understand because the Borg aren't individuals and regularly victimize everyone they come across.

Oh, and another disturbing moment: Captain Kruge's slow-disintegration gun in STIII. Just LOOK at the dying gunner after he's shot...

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Too bad the movies seemed to mess up with Kirk. I really have a hard time time thinking that Kirk would REALLY wish the entire Klingon species be wiped out for killing his son, especially when he had no problems working with the Klingons in STV.

Of course, if STV isn't canon...

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

-The destruction of the Yamato in Contagion. Seeing the engineering hull vapourized in a flash, with the hull and compartments of the saucer section boiling away was probably the most graphic way a space vessel's been destroyed on Star Trek. There were probably families onboard, much like the Enterprise. It was quite unnerving.
-Terrell shooting himself in TWOK
-The aforementioned slow disentegration in TSFS. Also, a similar weapon in TNG's The Most Toys
-DS9. Profit and Lace.
-Spock's interrogation of Valeris in TUC.

 

[Greg Cox]

Too bad the movies seemed to mess up with Kirk. I really have a hard time time thinking that Kirk would REALLY wish the entire Klingon species be wiped out for killing his son, especially when he had no problems working with the Klingons in STV.

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Okay, I have no problem with that. It was an emotional outburst, that's all. It's not like we saw Kirk cold-bloodedly planning genocide or something. He just reacted angrily when asked to sympathize with lifelong enemies who had killed his son. Perfectly normal human reaction. Kirk's not a plaster saint after all.

He then put his personal feelings aside and did his best to assist in the peace process.

Sounds like Kirk to me.

As for STV, I think it's unrealistic to expect that a brief detente with a couple of Klingons would be enough to get him over David's death, the destruction of the first Enterprise--and all the redshirts he lost to Klingons over the previous thirty years or so.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

-Terrell shooting himself in TWOK

That scene didn't disturb me, not really. It was actually a very uplifting scene: that Terrell broke free of Khan's mental control and refused to follow Khan's orders to kill Kirk. Terrell chose to sacrifice himself rather than kill a friend and fellow officer. I wouldn't say that was disturbing.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

The vapourisation effect (and accompanying scream) weren't exactly happy and rosy.

 

[Too Much Fun]

A lot of Data/Lore stuff really freaked me out as a kid and still creeps me out to this day. Two instances that stand out are Data taking over the bridge using Picard's voice (ugh, the close-up as he does that is so disturbing), and Lore lifting up his (gah...just thinking about it makes me shudder) fingernail.

 

[Cheapjack]

Chavtrek2009.



Scared the hell out of me.



Well, made me a little nervous.


What was that TNG episode where they infected the Borg? Was there a cure?

 

[Robert D. Robot]

I found the scene in Descent, Part II where Data dispassionately tells Geordi how he plans to continue to irradiate and destroy his brain as part of an experiment to be pretty disturbing. I knew the plans would eventually get foiled, but just the concept of your best friend turning on you and causally planning to do serious harm to you is pretty disturbing.,,,,

 

[Nightdiamond]

As far as physical gore...

In First Contact, Picard has a flashback where they're about to drill a hole in Picard's eye, but he wakes up just at that point.

TNG's Conspiracy, where they discover that Commander Remmick is the host to the aliens, they phaser at his head until it dissolves then explodes. Pieces and chunks of flesh are all over his lap.

And this was 1988 television..

 

[sbk1234]

Too bad the movies seemed to mess up with Kirk. I really have a hard time time thinking that Kirk would REALLY wish the entire Klingon species be wiped out for killing his son, especially when he had no problems working with the Klingons in STV.

...

Okay, I have no problem with that. It was an emotional outburst, that's all. It's not like we saw Kirk cold-bloodedly planning genocide or something. He just reacted angrily when asked to sympathize with lifelong enemies who had killed his son. Perfectly normal human reaction. Kirk's not a plaster saint after all.

He then put his personal feelings aside and did his best to assist in the peace process.

Sounds like Kirk to me.

As for STV, I think it's unrealistic to expect that a brief detente with a couple of Klingons would be enough to get him over David's death, the destruction of the first Enterprise--and all the redshirts he lost to Klingons over the previous thirty years or so.

If we're talking about the line in Trek VI where Kirk says, "Let them die," Shatner has said that he had a problem with that line being out of character for Kirk. He tried to play it as if Kirk just blurted that out in his anger, but then regretted he had said it, but Nick Meyer edited that last part out. I think it's explained on the Trek VI DVD in one of the documentaries.

As for Trek V, Kirk even comments that he doesn't like the Klingons either. So he has no love for them for a while.

 

[Skellington]

If we're talking about the line in Trek VI where Kirk says, "Let them die," Shatner has said that he had a problem with that line being out of character for Kirk.

I think that it was, and that it was beneath him. Wasn't that movie co-written by Nimoy as a kind of polemic? At the time,the cold war had just ended and the West's relations with the "evil empire" had improved somewhat, or at least there was a feeling of optimism. That conversation seems to shoehorn Kirk into the role of the antagonist with Spock as the protagonist.

 

[sbk1234]

I never saw him as an antagonist. I always saw him as a flawed, human hero who was able to grow.

 

[Satyrquaze]

I don't know, I found his blatant racism against Klingons to be a bit jarring after watching TNG for 4 years.

 

[DonIago]

Except Kirk isn't from the era of TNG...

 

[Anwar]

An the Klingons of TOS had consistently shown themselves to be a bloodthirsty bunch of space marauders. They didn't really get any redeemable traits aside from "Our worlds are poor" until the TNG era (TUC came after TNG started, so Gorkon's peaceful attitude also is after that).

 

[Greg Cox]

An the Klingons of TOS had consistently shown themselves to be a bloodthirsty bunch of space marauders. They didn't really get any redeemable traits aside from "Our worlds are poor" until the TNG era (TUC came after TNG started, so Gorkon's peaceful attitude also is after that).

Exactly. Kirk had spent his entire career fighting the Klingons, who were mostly ruthless conquerors in TOS. And Kirk has always been an emotional, volatile guy--not a cerebral diplomat like Picard.

 

[Crisp Conditions]

Speaking of which, TOS: Day of the Dove has more than its share of tense/disturbing scenes, most featuring Chekov, either getting the agonizer or about to rape Mara. The racial slurs between Spock and Scotty aren't for baby's ears either.