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okay...season 2 not so bad after all...

Borjis

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I'm one of us that only wanted to have seasons 3-7 on dvd.

Last week while trying to locate a specific episode (turned out to be "lessons" I wanted to watch) looking through an episode guide, I noticed how many season 2 episodes I really like and miss having, so I decided to buy it. Yeah the uniforms are still goofy, but Riker has a beard at least. Pulaski reminds me of McCoy so thats fine.

Still too many duds in season 1 to purchase though.
 
Pulaski is off-brand McCoy. Rather, she's not EVEN off-brand McCoy. If McCoy is Coca Cola, then Pulaski is some mislabeled chinese sugar-water.

But Season 2, even thought it opens with the absolutely atrocious The Child, isn't so bad. It has a few pretty good episodes and is far better than S1 in general. Still not up to par with the later seasons of the show, I think. I might pick it up eventually for the gems in it, though.
 
I've always rated season 2 very highly. Back when the show still felt fresh and daring enough to do something different e.g. before becoming pretty formulaic circa season 5.
 
Yes popular opinion seems to be that Season 3 was where it's at with TNG. I always believed Season 2 was when it got good.

All the pieces for the series come into place...
Ten Forward opens and Guinan's there,
Geordi is running things down in engineering,
Riker's got his beard,
Worf's in gold and is the security chief.

And the really great eps begin...
Where Silence Has Lease,
Elementary, Dear Data
A Matter of Honor,
The Measure of a Man,
Q Who?,
The Emissary

For me, TNG hit its stride in Season 2. I didn't have to wait for Season 3.
 
Agreed. maybe it was the new uniforms, lighting and carpet color change of the bridge that really made season 3 what it is.
 
My least favorite season...but it does have 3, 5-star episodes and a few good ones.

RAMA
 
I've always liked season 2 because the episodes had a slightly darker tone than the rest of the series. There was a sense that space was really dangerous and that there was still an awe and terror at what the crew encountered — the Möbius strip, the Borg, Nagilum and even Q.

Also, I've long preferred Pulaski over Dr. Janice Rand ... um, Beverly Crusher. She also had an arc throughout the season, going from disliking and distrusting Data("The Child" and "Elementary, Dear Data") to being one of his biggest champions ("Peak Performance"). Moreover, she gave both Data and Picard something they were sorely lacking in season one — someone to challenge them.

Fans always seem to get into an uproar about how Pulaski treated Data in the early season two episodes. But that's precisely what the character needed. Characters, much like us real live counterparts, grow and learn when faced with opposition. Up until that point, Data had no opposition and was treated with kid gloves.

The same with Picard. "Encounter at Farpoint" set up Riker as that opposition for Picard, much like Decker was for Kirk in the first third of TMP. Another example is "Yesterday's Enterprise." I thought the dynamic between Riker and Picard in that alternate timeline was how it should've been in the "normal" timeline too.

But any potential conflict quickly fizzled in season one in favor of a father-son relationship that was to deferential.

Pulaski pushed Picard's shit in and challenged his decisions, taking up the role that should've been Riker's. She could also go toe-to-toe with him unlike Crusher. That's because Muldar was a better actress than McFadden, who came across as a shrill, yapping dog when Crusher had to confront anyone (guess Q was right in "True Q").
 
I find that "being a contrary bitch for no real reason" and "challenging" Data are two VERY different things. The former being what she actually was on the show. And I REALLY don't see how expressing the sentiment of "You're a frigging calculator, I don't get how you lost" means Pulaski is Data's biggest champion or anywhere close.
 
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Pulaski is off-brand McCoy. Rather, she's not EVEN off-brand McCoy. If McCoy is Coca Cola, then Pulaski is some mislabeled chinese sugar-water.
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Agreed and sigged.
But Season 2, even thought it opens with the absolutely atrocious The Child, isn't so bad. It has a few pretty good episodes and is far better than S1 in general. Still not up to par with the later seasons of the show, I think. I might pick it up eventually for the gems in it, though.
Agreed. It was an improvement over s1, certainly, but it's still my second least favorite season after s1.
I'm one of us that only wanted to have seasons 3-7 on dvd.

Last week while trying to locate a specific episode (turned out to be "lessons" I wanted to watch) looking through an episode guide, I noticed how many season 2 episodes I really like and miss having, so I decided to buy it. Yeah the uniforms are still goofy, but Riker has a beard at least. Pulaski reminds me of McCoy so thats fine.

Still too many duds in season 1 to purchase though.
I got season 1 simply to have the entire series, because I knew that I was going to get 2-7 no question, and I also knew having those and NOT 1 as well would bug the collector in me. :D

Still, those uniforms were awful, and they encapsulate part of what was wrong with seasons 1 and 2, in terms of production values. s3 was an amazing improvement in that regard. My personal faves from s2 were:
"Where Silence Has Lease"
"Loud as a Whisper"
"The Measure of a Man"
"Contagion"
"Q Who?"
 
I still like the season 1 and 2 uniforms better than the ones in 3-7. The new shirt looked really dumb and was obviously clunky with the way Picard and Riker always had to pull it down.

And despite its problems, season 2 does have "The Measure of a Man" and "Q Who". I truly believe very few episodes in future seasons are as good as or better than those.
 
If I'm going to have episodes of a show, I always get all of them, just on principle. Then even if part of my collection is awful, it still is great overall, which is why I own it in the first place. It's a story-arc thing, leaving anything out of it just seems unnatural. Just my opinion.
 
Conspiracy in season one was the most gruesome of all near the end and my favorite of s1.

something interesting i found, on wikipedia it states: " It is also one of only two episodes in the show's history to be broadcast with a warning about its content."

I remember seeing that on its first airing.

what was the other episode that got a warning?
 
I quite like season 2, better than season 1 but worse for not having Beverly - if that makes sense?! I need to start getting TNG on DVDs, I haven't seen any of it for ages.
 
I saved a bunch of money by waiting it out when they became available. at $ 74.99 a season new I was in no hurry.

I buy them used on amazon. some seasons average $ 35 each
 
Thanks, I think I'll do that. I'm in no major hurry to get them - something I'll maybe do this year.
 
To be perfectly blunt, I find both of them bland. The difference is that I feel like Gates McFadden had much better chemistry with the rest of the cast (unfair as that is, since she had six years and four movies) and a lot of scenes get accented nicely by her presence.

Crusher teaching Data to tapdance always comes to mind. Crusher herself doesn't interest me there so much as what McFadden brings out of Spiner.
 
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