Seven of Nine and the Borg

[Eleanor_zhDarjel]

Mate. I'm joking. Don't care about sexual preferences here. Sweet of you to call me homofobic though...

I'm leaving this now. If you want to read some serious topic in my post that is you right. Very silly, but alas. I'm just here to have fun.

Cheers.

 

[exodus]

Mate. I'm joking. Don't care about sexual preferences here. Sweet of you to call me homofobic though...

I'm leaving this now. If you want to read some serious topic in my post that is you right. Very silly, but alas. I'm just here to have fun.

Cheers.

Clearly you're misreading everything I wrote even with->, indicating "joking".
I'm not even going to bother to address the issue of Homophobia, which was never said nor implied.
If you wanna misread what's written and make up shit, that's on you.

 

[Gary7]

On a serious note, although Seven was quite clearly brought to the show to increase the T&A factor, she did nevertheless become an fascinating, intricate and multifaceted character - very much to the credit of Jeri Ryan and the writers.

Agreed. The catsuit was a distraction and overshadowed her a bit. I really liked how Jeri Ryan undertook this difficult role. It's hard to behave convincingly as a pseudo cyborg turned "mostly" human. She was very believable, especially in her progression towards becoming more human.

The rigid motion of the Borg is inconsistent and definitely more prevalent in earlier incarnations. There were definitely scenes in some of the movies that showed them moving quite fluidly. Not all the time. Operating their arms was sometimes jerky, reflective of a cyborg rather than a pure humanoid. I haven't watched "Scorpion" in a long while... can't remember how the Borg were portrayed there. But of course, we can't expect their portrayal to be totally consistent throughout the entire franchise. After all, remember in the beginning that the skin was pale, not mottled. We also saw a Borg nursery, with infants having implants, suggesting they "raised" new Borg and didn't assimilate bodies. They came aboard the Enterprise and scouted around, not aggressively assimilating the crew (unlike what we see happen later on in the franchise). Transforming Picard into Locutus was an exception. Remember, they went through this elaborate surgical procedure with Picard. Later on, we see victims morph into Borg within just a few hours and all done automatically by the Borg nanoprobes.

As for sexual organs... no need to waste the energy in removal. Just "disable", by lack of related hormones. For breasts, they'd secure them with a kind of chest girdle. A Borg sports bra. Of course, if they assimilated a woman with a large chest, they might remove them so she could more easily accommodate a Borg suit. Thankfully 7of9 was just within requirements.

 

[AuntKate]

I always figured she had some servos in her boobs, since her waist is too small.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I believe that I am unique. I alone did not find the Seven of Nine Costume "titillating".

Meh.

 

[Jetfire]

^
You must be dead inside.

I would have preferred Seven in a red dress the whole show.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Yup.

The dress is way more exciting than the sock she wears as a Borg Halfling.

 

[Jetfire]

Jeri looks great wearing anything...Jeri in only a sock...

 

[froot]

The dress is nicer because it's actually clothing and not a glittery sausage casing.

I like Seven as a badass Borg and when she's wearing normal things like that dress and/or a nice Starfleet uniform. But that catsuit is just too silly for me on too many levels. Sorry, Jetfire.

I mean, the suit has a freaking corset underneath. We got past those things a hundred years ago. Total wardrobe fail.

 

[froot]

Not to mention Picard in banana hammock speedos, so I don't wanna hear it.

Wait how is that bad?!

Er... I mean... uh... what an outrage?

 

[exodus]

Not to mention Picard in banana hammock speedos, so I don't wanna hear it.

Wait how is that bad?!

Er... I mean... uh... what an outrage?

Eeeeeeeeeeewwww!!!!!!

 

[Guy Gardener]

What was he wearing on Captains Holiday and how much did we see on the chain of command when that guy from the Omen was leading him around in nothing but a dog collar?

 

[Lord Manitou]

Don't get me wrong since I'm not compaining - but what use would the Borg have had to keep her boobs? Or, since she was Borgified at age 6, why would they allow them to grow in the first place?

Ditto Picard's junk when he was Locutus.

The queen repeatedly calls Seven of Nine a unique drone. She wasn't born and raised on a Borg cube but on a planet owned by the Borg. They didn't want to change her appearance because she looked pretty...
Besides, they know from experience an amputation would kill her.

 

[exodus]

Don't get me wrong since I'm not compaining - but what use would the Borg have had to keep her boobs? Or, since she was Borgified at age 6, why would they allow them to grow in the first place?

Ditto Picard's junk when he was Locutus.

The queen repeatedly calls Seven of Nine a unique drone. She wasn't born and raised on a Borg cube but on a planet owned by the Borg. They didn't want to change her appearance because she looked pretty...
Besides, they know from experience an amputation would kill her.

IMO I think it's more symbolic.
Like the Ugly Duckling & the Swan.

The Borg are taking people, things of beauty and turning them into ugly ducklings. So if Voyager hadn't rescued her, who would have known there was this beautiful big breasted perfect figured woman was under all that. Go back to "Infinate Regress", "Survival Instinct". again all innocent beautiful intelligent people(yes, even the Ferengi to his own people) taken and turned into ugly things.

Ron Moore took the same concept and just flipped it for nuBSG.
He took ugly Cylons and turned them into beautiful, seductive things like Six & Boomer.

 

[Lord Manitou]

"Infinate Regress", "Survival Instinct". again all innocent beautiful intelligent people(yes, even the Ferengi to his own people) taken and turned into ugly things.

The Borg drone is not exactly an advanced vacuum cleaner. They had to stay close to the technology of the Cube and they also had to recognize the beauty of
symmetry, complexity and efficiency of its' many parts. What would seem ugly to the average unassimilated human might be beautiful to them.
Taking and individual and chopping him down and turning him into a drone was commonplace. If the person was called unique, however, doing something was averted by a mountain of principle and ethics that the Borg confronted themselves with. In this case, Seven of Nine for example, she was left as she is and called pretty. The dialogue beween the queen and Seven of Nine reflects her position with the Borg and the collective hive.

 

[exodus]

"Infinate Regress", "Survival Instinct". again all innocent beautiful intelligent people(yes, even the Ferengi to his own people) taken and turned into ugly things.

The Borg drone is not exactly an advanced vacuum cleaner. They had to stay close to the technology of the Cube and they also had to recognize the beauty of
symmetry, complexity and efficiency of its' many parts. What would seem ugly to the average unassimilated human might be beautiful to them.

I would agree if Voyager was told from the prespective of the Borg. It's not, so from a human POV the Borg and how they are is ugly.