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Twilight(The Worst Thing in the Universe)

I've read the books and seen the movies. They're brain popcorn with some awful dialogue and dodgy moral philosophies when one scrapes the shiny surface.

In that regard I think they're in plentiful company. Don't actually see what makes them any worse than Bond movies, or the Transformers franchise, or Eragon, or the new Batman movies, or whatever else you want to throw in there.
 
Sadly (or luckily) I haven't seen or read any of the movies or books, so I can't pass judgement. From what both men (those that don't just rate it bad because of it's target audience) and women have been saying about it, it sounds like a female equivalent of a trashy action movie (shallow brainless action and gore - shallow brainless romance and angst), appealing to more basic desires with very little brain power required, with dodgy issues in regards to women.
 
I can see why a teenage girl would like it; it's a modern retelling of the "dashing prince rescues beautiful princess" tale that made ye olde beautiful maiden swoon with heart-longing in her chest. If you spend more than 30 seconds ripping on it, it's because neither the books nor the movies were written for guys who like to watch shit blow up. Imagine how a teenaged girl would feel watching RoboCop all alone in a theater full of 20-year-old dudes... be objective. It's like being surprised if somebody who grew up in a family that only listened to country and has only listened to that for generations says that their favorite music is Toby Keith.

They're really actually a bit worse than that. An intelligent person can enjoy or at least appreciate a good romance as well-made, but Twilight doesn't reach that bar. If they were softcore porn for tweens and fat housewives, it would be acceptable; but they're rather abhorrent in many ways, from construction (ridiculously boring) to message (premarital sex is the devil, cockteasing is acceptable and profitable) to content (100 year old guy hanging out in a high school in the first place [did you not pass pre-cal the first 85 times?], vampire fetus breaking spines [iirc], vampire baby being lusted after by werewolf). Of course there's also the uncommented on fact that these assholes--the vampires as a group--have discovered human immortality but have made it a secret, special rite for only the people they deign to bang.

Oh, and Bella's complicity in mass murder in the second one, whatever it was called. It's okay, the tour group doesn't have sweet abs, so deserve to die. (It's also sort of stupid that this could be gotten away with. Are Meyer and/or the filmmakers under the impression that Italy is some rustic Third World backwater where two dozen people can go missing and no one will notice, care, or do anything about it?) Anyway, bitch is like one of those Germans who lived outside Dachau and claimed they never noticed that their windows got greasy from the accumulated layers of aersolized human fat.

Plus, animal meat is still murder. Fuck you, Cullens.
 
howtwilightshouldhaveen.jpg

That is utterly BRILLIANT, it genuinely made me laugh out loud!:lol: Someone should do a series of these with Buffy, Peter Cushing and other famous vamp hunters
I think Twilight etc are ok just kinda stupid, it's the kind of concept Buffy would make fun off (and certainly does if you read the comics), it's the Spuffy or Bangel without he wit, great dialogue, action and knowing self-parody (think 'Lie to Me' or Xander interrupting them in The Zeppo).
 
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You see, that's exactly what I'm talking about.

Two years ago when that image first began circulating on the interwebs, it was funny. Now it's passe. Why don't we just crack Chuck Norris jabs while we're at it...

I like things that are at least as "mockingly bad" as Twilight.

Let's just be honest, everyone here does.
Indeed. And many of them rather sincerely and passionately. Anyone gettng on their high horse here about the need to distance themselves from Twilight fans 'cause it sucks probably needs to look at their own tastes with a trifle more honesty, no?
 
My tastes are impeccable, and my entertainment subjected to a withering gauntlet of critical examination, a crucible from which only the pure survives to stir me.

So when I say I like, for example, Toho's 1972 classic Godzilla vs. Gigan, you may be assured that it is fucking art.
 
Sadly (or luckily) I haven't seen or read any of the movies or books, so I can't pass judgement. From what both men (those that don't just rate it bad because of it's target audience) and women have been saying about it, it sounds like a female equivalent of a trashy action movie (shallow brainless action and gore - shallow brainless romance and angst), appealing to more basic desires with very little brain power required, with dodgy issues in regards to women.

I think SiorX hit the nail on the head with the Bond movie comparison. They hold up as a hero a male wish-fulfillment fantasy who is ridiculously skilled, fighting mockably bad villains bent on the laughable goal of world-domination, considered cool because he's a tail-gettin' stud who plainly hates women. Men adore him whereas I've been baffled by every boyfriend who harangued me with how fantastic the movies are. I rolled my eyes until they were sprained and then fell asleep trying to watch From Russia with Love, Dr. No and Goldfinger. Any dude who digs Bond has no business bagging on Twilight which is only equally as stupid and bad.
 
Saw the first film as my daugher dragged me to it... she thought it was "Stupid"
as did I...

the only thing worse could have been watching "Mama Mia" on continous loop for 2 weeks...
 
I've seen the third movie today, with Rifftrax of course. All the actors there looked like they were embarrassed to be in the movie. No emotions, no acting, a really idiotic plot, funny vampire rules (WTF, they are stronger when they still have human blood? So why after a year or so they run really fast and are really strong?). And then there was some werewolf dude who spent the entire movie shirtless, even in scenes on some high mountain where it snowed heavily ...
A killer Rifftrax, BTW.
 
I'm not sure what all the fuss is about. I've seen the first two Twilight movies, and they were mildly entertaining. Certainly nothing meriting a second watch, that's for sure, but nothing as horrible as the dribble that the SyFy channel serves up on Saturday nights.
 
The books and movies are made mostly for teenage girls so no wonder people outside the target group won't find them appealing. Even if they were well done (I've never seen them so I can't comment on that) I doubt the non target audience would like it. Perhaps they'd mock it less or outright ignore it but that's about it.

If they books get these pre and teen girls to be interested in reading then they'll do some good.
 
I'm glad Twilight exists, but only because Alex Day mocking the book is utterly fantastic.

My sincerest thanks for mentioning this - I spent yesterday evening laughing way too loud for 1am when I have neighbours over those videos. :lol: Brilliant.
 
I've seen the third movie today, with Rifftrax of course. All the actors there looked like they were embarrassed to be in the movie. No emotions, no acting, a really idiotic plot, funny vampire rules (WTF, they are stronger when they still have human blood? So why after a year or so they run really fast and are really strong?). And then there was some werewolf dude who spent the entire movie shirtless, even in scenes on some high mountain where it snowed heavily ...
A killer Rifftrax, BTW.

In the Twilight universe werewolves, even in human form, have a very high body heat as if they were running a fever. What's dumber is they hid-out with Bella at the top of that mountain without, you know, bringing anything with them like heavy blankets, space heaters, thermal underwear and stuff like that. :rolleyes:

The werewolves running around the whole movie shirtless (more apparent in the second movie) is just pandering to drooling teenage girls at its worst. There's also a bit of a double-standard with these movies. Out there there's one of those "demotivator" images (reproduction of those "motivation" posters from the 90s) featuring a bunch of middle-aged women excited for the coming Twilight movie. You see, older women like these movies because of the handsome, scantly clad, young men in them.

Now. What do you think the public reaction would be to a bunch of middle-aged men excited to see a movie because it featured scantly-clad young women in it?
 
I think SiorX hit the nail on the head with the Bond movie comparison. They hold up as a hero a male wish-fulfillment fantasy who is ridiculously skilled, fighting mockably bad villains bent on the laughable goal of world-domination, considered cool because he's a tail-gettin' stud who plainly hates women. Men adore him whereas I've been baffled by every boyfriend who harangued me with how fantastic the movies are. I rolled my eyes until they were sprained and then fell asleep trying to watch From Russia with Love, Dr. No and Goldfinger. Any dude who digs Bond has no business bagging on Twilight which is only equally as stupid and bad.
Old school Bond, maybe. But does any Dalton or later Bond movie really treat women as wretchedly as Twilight? :)
 
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