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Sarah Jane Adventures: Series 4

yes I enjoyed todays episode as well, Gita and B.U.R.P.S.S was funny, a bit line L.I.N.D.A. I guess, bet they would love to learn the truth about Sarah Jane Smith.

The Alliance of Shades worked well in live action form, and the idea of aliens trying to stop us learning about them is interesting,

The return of Androvax is good as well, infact over all I really liked this episode, it was a good mix of action and comedy.
 
I don't know why Luke's even needed anymore, this weeks worked perfectly well with just Clyde and Rani.

Anyway, I liked this weeks, I thought Mr Dredd was quite good, shame he can't show up in Who. Liked the return of Androvax(sp?) and I liked the fact that I didn't quite guess how this was going to end. I'm guessing Androvax will die, but his race will be reborn.

Obviously looking forward to next week for some reason that escapes me at the moment... :)

Next week? it already aired.

Crossed wires I just realised! You thought I was talking about part 2 of this but I meant death of the doctor!! I thought you had your own TARDIS for a moment there, Bob. I have seen both eps of the Vault of Secrets.
 
I don't know why Luke's even needed anymore, this weeks worked perfectly well with just Clyde and Rani.

Anyway, I liked this weeks, I thought Mr Dredd was quite good, shame he can't show up in Who. Liked the return of Androvax(sp?) and I liked the fact that I didn't quite guess how this was going to end. I'm guessing Androvax will die, but his race will be reborn.

Obviously looking forward to next week for some reason that escapes me at the moment... :)

Next week? it already aired.

Crossed wires I just realised! You thought I was talking about part 2 of this but I meant death of the doctor!! I thought you had your own TARDIS for a moment there, Bob. I have seen both eps of the Vault of Secrets.

Yeah, sorry about that. I've thought so far this series has been very good, surprisingly good really.
 
Just hope its not like last year when the season just sort of crashed and burned after the Doctors episode.
 
The latest issue of DWM has an interview with RTD about his episodes. Loved his comment when asked about whether there should be the Jo Grant Adventures.

"I’d buy it! That and Adric The Friendly Ghost, he haunts a family of dinosaurs with hilarious consequences"
 
Hello Gita my old friend,
you've come to wreck the show again...

Well, not as badly as usual, but she's by far the weakest thing in the show. With the possible exception of an organization called BURPSS (and related gags) which make the first half in particular seem a lot more juvenile than is usual for SJA.

Anyway, onto more spoilery stuff...


Nice to see the pyramid of Mars...

Mr Dread's a rubbish name for an agent Smith knock-off, but he came over as a decent character all the same, and it was a bonus to see some proper MIB lore - the old 50s car and everything (though if you're going to go that far, the MIBs should have been bald). Surprised that Clyde made a Will Smith reference but nobody made a Matrix one, seeing as the MiB film is older than the Matrix, and both he and the target audience are more likely to remember the latter - even though they're 15 rated. What I'm trying to say, of course, is why didn't Phil Ford stick a Matrix ref in *somewhere*... "Wish the MIBs could make us forget the third movie," perhaps... (though I'm actually OK with the sequels.)

Actually it'd be nice to see Mr Dread again someday.

The Clyde/Rani shipping was amusing (though I prefer Clyde/Sarah, knowing that the actor is in his mid-20s, and having found their scenes together in the Eve story last year hilarious.) Rani, sadly, falls victim to Mcintee's First Law of Acting by being utter crap when possessed by the Veil. The former Constable Habib from The Thin Blue Line, however, now playing the annoying Gita who invariably fucks up the tone by thinking she's still in a sitcom, is actually *better* when possessed. They should keep her that way, cos she seems to be the only one - and I include Sladen in this - who actually gets that when her character is possessed by the Veil, *she should play the Veil*. Clyde doesn't really have any dialogue when possessed, so the jury's out on him.

Oh, speaking of Gita and BURPSS, there is the question of whether everyone should be au fait with aliens now, post Journey's End. I guess the cracks swallowed the events for everyone, though it could be that most people just have Mr Chandra's attitude- "yes, the aliens came, did their thing, and fucked off so they're gone now."

As soon as they said "when the ship starts, the vault will blow up the Earth" I thought, I bet there's a way round that. And there was. Nice.

Overall, then, mostly good fun, with Gita bringing the first half down. It did leave some unanswered questions though- who were the Alliance Of Shades bunch who programmed the androids, and why did they want to preserve Earth?"


So, 8/10 and, niggles aside, another winner.
 
It's a children's show so I don't mind that they occasionally go over the top with the caricatures. In fact I think the tone of this series is the best so far. They repeat dialogue less often, the stories are a tiny bit more intelligent, they're putting in little Easter eggs for DW fans, and all it needs is more Floella Benjamin!
 
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Someone should have told Katy to do up at least one more button on her shirt.
 
all it needs is more Floella Benjamin!

You're not wrong there- I remember her from Play School in the 70s, and she doesn't seem to have aged at all!

You're right! I think Floella is a baroness now too - at least until they abolish life peers. Hmm - we've never seen her and 'the' Rani in the same room at the same time either... nah - having two Rani's in the same show would just get confusing.
 
I like Rani's mum and dad...I thought the actress who plays Rani did a nice job of the alt universe Gita in the ep where Sarah Jane went back to meet her parents. Of course it is hard to find mr Chandra amusing when he was a stone killer on Spooks a season back!

We need to find out Lis Sladen and Floella Benjamin's secrets!! How do they stay so young? (on a similar note I see Viki Michelle's got an MBE or something similar and she still looks fantastic at 59!)
 
Well, that was all over the place - very bitty, veering wildly between the great (Rani and her dad, Matt Smith stealing the show as soon as he appeared) to the wince-inducing (hello RTD's political sledgehammer, and vulture muppets.)

Nice to hear music from the main show used here - the UNIT theme, for example, and some nice fan-pleasing flashbacks and Sarah/Jo reminiscinces, which will probably alienate the target audience, however cool they were for the rest of us.

Jo really does look like the blonde muppet from The Dark Crystal, doesn't she? Fucking hell. Her grandson seems to be a sort of hippy Marty Stu, but gets away with it. (and could Luke's dialogue about his new boyfriend at university be interpreted in any other way? He should just have said "I have a new boyfriend" and Clyde's expression would still work fine.)

The UNIT base was a bit silly (nobody noticed *that* on Snowdon?! I thought she said "Under" the mountain) though the impossibly-young-for-her-rank Colonel is kinda cute.

Unanswered question- who were other handful of people at the funeral supposed to be?

Anyhow, not bad, better than last year's equivalent episode, but not as good as the last two weeks.

I'll give it 7/10, but let's see what tomorrow's episode does for the overall story score.

And for those of us who think the vulture muppets are dire, be warned- in the Radio Times, Matt Smith says he thought they were so great that he's petitioning the Moff to have them in the main show.
 
^Luke was supposed to be winding Clyde up in that scene, which is why he went over the top saying how great the kid was. But if you want to take it as he has a boyfriend then fair enough.

While you're right she did say under Snowdon, why would they have to hid it? It's a military base doesn't really need explaining away.

They said the people at the funeral were "old soldiers" so I assume they were supposed to be soldiers who'd worked with the Doctor at some point or the other.

What political sledgehammer btw? Not sure I noticed one.
 
^Luke was supposed to be winding Clyde up in that scene, which is why he went over the top saying how great the kid was. But if you want to take it as he has a boyfriend then fair enough.

This is what being on LiveJournal does to you. I'm taking bets on when the first "RTD Racefail" rant will appear, claiming that Clyde's white hand moment proves RTD is an evil nazi racist, etc...

While you're right she did say under Snowdon, why would they have to hid it? It's a military base doesn't really need explaining away.

I was thinking more the big rocket-like tower and suchlike. It seemed just a bit oof to me, compared to the usual stylings of the show.

They said the people at the funeral were "old soldiers" so I assume they were supposed to be soldiers who'd worked with the Doctor at some point or the other.

Ah, that'd make sense - old UNIT dogfaces.

What political sledgehammer btw? Not sure I noticed one.

I was thinking mainly of of Jo's long list of protests. It was either a political sledgehammer or a real pisstake of her leaving story. And I don't think it was the latter.
 
*avoids spoilers*

Just posting to say, could you count this episode as a crossover with both Classic Who, and NewWho?
 
Plenty of spoilerish stuff, I guess...




Liked it. Plenty for the old fan without going TOO far down Nerdgasm Lane, and cleverly using it to contrast Sarah Jane's post-Doctor life with a counterpart's to see just how crazy life is after a few years in the TARDIS. Jo has had her share of adventures and doing crazy things. Sounds like she was at the G8 in Toronto this year, chaining herself to stuff and using up my federal taxpayer money. :P

Also nice to see Jo's reactions on learning that the Doctor has come back since his time in the 70s, and done little to meet up with her, while happening upon her "replacement" plenty of times. It's a revisitation of the feelings SJ felt when she met the Tenth Doctor and seeing Rose, but more mellow and less jealous this time.

Anyway, for Jo we know that the Doctor liked her plenty and was quite shocked when she agreed to marry that hippy and take off for the Amazon; "The Green Death" was the closest to true feelings that the Doctor had felt for any of his companions (save Susan) and him driving off alone without her was a very poingant moment in the series, so it's nice to follow up on that.

Finally, I think it would have been cool for Clyde and the Doctor to have swapped places, but not clothes. Aside from being a neat laugh and letting the actor wear different clothes again, it would show off how good Matt Smith looks wearing freaking ANYTHING, it seems.

Mark
 
Wasn't all that bad. I wonder whether the cliffhanger resolution will be worse or better than Aliens of London. Difficult to imagine worse, but this is RTD...

Still, was ok for what it was. It's not every DW episode that you get Timelash referenced.
 
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