Heheheheh...I've started it again, I'm not going to w'oq away from this one! 
Have any of the novels ever just made you mad? (
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Oy, vey....
We're all just a fl'oq of seagulls, aren't we?
Don't hit your head on a bl'oq like that.
OH, you're all a bunch of BL'OQHEADS!
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OH, GREAT, NOW YOU GOT ME DOING IT!!!
--OH, GREAT, NOW YOU GOT ME DOING IT!!!
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While it didn't make me mad, "The Janus Gate" made me fall asleep repeatedly. I just couldn't get through more than 5 or 6 pages before I started to nod off. I don't understand it myself, but there you go. 
^They went back and forth through those same damn caves and described each journey in endless excruciating detail
OH, you're all a bunch of BL'OQHEADS!
How sh'oqing.
I'm sorry to turn this discussion back around to yet another Destiny discussion, I felt behooved to add something that had just occurred today. As beautiful as the moment of the Collective being drawn into the Caeliar gestalt, the emotion crux of the store came far earlier inMere Mortals. As Columbia's Commander Fletcher lay dying, in the midst of all of that, she was at peace. The moment she died, the peace came over her face, and in a midst of stillness, she told her friend "It's okay. I'm free."
Commander Fletcher died because she chose to be free, rather than accept the safety of the Caeliar. The great children's philosopher Louis Sachar once posited that children were given two choices. They could be safe, or they could be free. And I think most people would choice freedom. As I already said in regards to the thalaron weapon, if I had to choice between the death of my principles, and the death of my body, I can only hope I would be brave enough to choose the latter.
In my relationship, I am the Bones, and my partner is the Spock, and we don't drive each other too crazy. But, passionate human that I am, Commander Fletcher's death was one of the few times that a ST novel has openly made me weep.
Well done, Mr. Mack.
Commander Fletcher died because she chose to be free, rather than accept the safety of the Caeliar. The great children's philosopher Louis Sachar once posited that children were given two choices. They could be safe, or they could be free. And I think most people would choice freedom. As I already said in regards to the thalaron weapon, if I had to choice between the death of my principles, and the death of my body, I can only hope I would be brave enough to choose the latter.
In my relationship, I am the Bones, and my partner is the Spock, and we don't drive each other too crazy. But, passionate human that I am, Commander Fletcher's death was one of the few times that a ST novel has openly made me weep.
Well done, Mr. Mack.
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^They went back and forth through those same damn caves and described each journey in endless excruciating detail
That must be it. I know that halfway through the book, I was thinking "Have we even accomplished anything? WHY ARE WE STILL IN THESE CAVES?!
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I just thought that the author had just gotten back from caving for the first time.
Maybe. That's the basic principle of how Diane Carey wrote Ship of the Line (while sailing), which I actually enjoy.
I've got nothing against the author. I've read many of L.A. Graf's books and those works are highly enjoyed by me. This one wasn't, which isn't necessarily a complaint, I mean, every author should be afforded a dud on occasion. It happens.
I just thought that the author had just gotten back from caving for the first time.
Maybe. That's the basic principle of how Diane Carey wrote Ship of the Line (while sailing), which I actually enjoy.
I've got nothing against the author. I've read many of L.A. Graf's books and those works are highly enjoyed by me. This one wasn't, which isn't necessarily a complaint, I mean, every author should be afforded a dud on occasion. It happens.
"L.A. Graf" is actually a group of authors, with L.A. Graf standing for "Let's all get rich and famous".
Most of the L.A. Graf books were written by Karen Rose Cercone and Julia Ecklar. Melissa Crandall was involved for only the first book I think and IIRC there was another person involved with Ice Trap who pulled out during the writing process.
Kinda goes against the grain of the fact that the human race has produced about a hundred billion or so slaves, serfs, servants, prisoners, and other people with rights we would consider vastly limited, yet comparatively few of whom, Spartacus notwithstanding, chose physical destruction over confinement, ownership, or subaltern status.
I don't know, maybe I'm just too much of an optimist for my own good, but for all the evil that we do to one another, we are capable of unbelievable acts of decency and compassion. Project Apollo, the eradication of smallpox, the Human Genome Project, the ISS, Beethoven's 5th Symphony, etc, etc, etc...
Often all we hear about on the news at times is the evil that men do, but there are even more examples of us doing right by our fellow man that just don't sell as many newspapers.
"Some day soon, Man will be able to harness incredibly energies--perhaps even the atom--energies that could ultimately hurl us to other worlds in some sort of space ship. And the men who reach out into space will be able to feed the hungry millions of the world and to cure their diseases. And those are the days worth living for."
It's silly things like that that sometimes keep me going. As many, many people after 9/11, I was scared and worried that maybe we were standing on the twilight of humanity. And as silly as this is going to sound, when I sat down to watch ENT for the first time, and there's that short clip of the Phoenix jettisoning its booster rocket and getting read to go boldly where no one had gone before for...you know, that was when I knew it was going to be okay. Because even in our darkest hours, we have an amazing capacity for good.
Will the future look just like Star Trek? Probably not. But as long as there are a handful of us to keep the spirit alive, we'll prevail, no matter how long it takes.
And yeah, that's the story Destiny told me. About how it doesn't matter if you have the biggest or the most ships, and that no matter how strong, smart or brave you are, your stronger, smarter and braver when you work with your friends. And the hope is more powerful than fear could ever be,
Okay, cheese over.
Often all we hear about on the news at times is the evil that men do, but there are even more examples of us doing right by our fellow man that just don't sell as many newspapers.
"Some day soon, Man will be able to harness incredibly energies--perhaps even the atom--energies that could ultimately hurl us to other worlds in some sort of space ship. And the men who reach out into space will be able to feed the hungry millions of the world and to cure their diseases. And those are the days worth living for."
It's silly things like that that sometimes keep me going. As many, many people after 9/11, I was scared and worried that maybe we were standing on the twilight of humanity. And as silly as this is going to sound, when I sat down to watch ENT for the first time, and there's that short clip of the Phoenix jettisoning its booster rocket and getting read to go boldly where no one had gone before for...you know, that was when I knew it was going to be okay. Because even in our darkest hours, we have an amazing capacity for good.
Will the future look just like Star Trek? Probably not. But as long as there are a handful of us to keep the spirit alive, we'll prevail, no matter how long it takes.
And yeah, that's the story Destiny told me. About how it doesn't matter if you have the biggest or the most ships, and that no matter how strong, smart or brave you are, your stronger, smarter and braver when you work with your friends. And the hope is more powerful than fear could ever be,
Okay, cheese over.
OH, you're all a bunch of BL'OQHEADS!
How sh'oqing.
Must be listening to that song Ti'Q T'oQ too often.
Hey, it's not ALL a cr'oq, you know.
Sometimes I even think about it when I'm down at the lake...sitting on the d'oq...
Sometimes I even think about it when I'm down at the lake...sitting on the d'oq...
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I just thought that the author had just gotten back from caving for the first time.
Maybe. That's the basic principle of how Diane Carey wrote Ship of the Line (while sailing), which I actually enjoy.
I've got nothing against the author. I've read many of L.A. Graf's books and those works are highly enjoyed by me. This one wasn't, which isn't necessarily a complaint, I mean, every author should be afforded a dud on occasion. It happens.
"L.A. Graf" is actually a group of authors, with L.A. Graf standing for "Let's all get rich and famous".
Most of the L.A. Graf books were written by Karen Rose Cercone and Julia Ecklar. Melissa Crandall was involved for only the first book I think and IIRC there was another person involved with Ice Trap who pulled out during the writing process.
Wait, really?!
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