Chapter Logs/scene access on DVDs (1999, 2004, 2009)

[jefferiestubes8]

Obviously on VHS tape the TOS episodes just played.
When DVDs seasons in 2004 became available of the episodes they did have scene access (AKA scene selection/Chapter Logs)

On the general forum I asked if there was a website listing the names of the chapters and there is. Here is the TOS listing.(thanks The Wormhole!)
On the full seasons they are titled.

What I want to know from TOS fans is:
1. are they titled on the 'scene access' on the 1999 2-episode Volume discs? Or does that start with the 2004 full season DVD sets of TOS?

2. If they were on there in 1999 were they also on the 1985 Laserdisc release?

3. If not on the Laserdiscs then 38 years later who came up with these titles? Paramount Home Video?

4. Are the titles in any way part of naming any episodes in ENT or are there any similarities of these scene access between episodes or the series for anyone who has analyzed them?

5. Do fans see them as just part of DVD/Blu-ray authoring, packaging, or are they in any way canon in and of themselves? (The titles of the chapters).
6. What about the deleted scenes included on the ENT DVDs? I think they just have scene #s and not names. Am I wrong?

7. Has any TOS Trek novels used the same names as these 'scene access' titles?

 

[Shatinator]

I have some of those Laserdisc, and I think they were produced in 1990

 

[Hober Mallow]

The team that puts together the DVD/blu-ray sets usually just come up with random scene titles for convenience's sake. They aren't important.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

The team that puts together the DVD/blu-ray sets usually just come up with random scene titles for convenience's sake. They aren't important.

Considering this _IS_ Star Trek and how everything is analyzed and nitpicked no offense Hober Mallow but to anyone who knows inside Paramount Home Video/CBS Home Video is this true of the Trek series DVDs too?

 

[Christopher]

5. Do fans see them as just part of DVD/Blu-ray authoring, packaging, or are they in any way canon in and of themselves? (The titles of the chapters).

How could they be canon? DVDs didn't exist when TOS was made. The people who wrote the scripts and shot the episodes had no idea that they'd ever be organized into "chapters" on the menu of some futuristic video-storage medium. They're just labels that the people hired to construct the DVD menus came up with to describe the separate acts of the episodes.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

Re: Chapter Logs/scene access on ENT DVDs

5. Do fans see them as just part of DVD/Blu-ray authoring, packaging, or are they in any way canon in and of themselves? (The titles of the chapters).

How could they be canon? DVDs didn't exist when TOS was made.

What about when ENT was released in 2005? DVDs were a guaranteed home video release at the time of production in 2001.

Are any of the ENT scripts' ACTS titled that followed as Chapter titles on the DVDs?

 

[Christopher]

Re: Chapter Logs/scene access on ENT DVDs

Are any of the ENT scripts' ACTS titled that followed as Chapter titles on the DVDs?

I can't imagine why they would be, because the purpose of a script is to provide filming information to the actors and crew of the production. Extraneous titles would only be a distraction.

The DVD menu titles are not anything authoritative. They're just something the compilers of the DVDs made up as a convenient reference for fans searching the chapter menus, to give them some indication of the content of each chapter. There's no reason why those titles would serve any purpose anywhere else. It's no different than if you asked me what my favorite part of "Yesterday's Enterprise" was and I said "The part where Picard leaps over the railing." That doesn't mean the title of that part of the episode is "The Part Where Picard Leaps Over the Railing." I'm just using those words to describe it. And the DVD menus are the same way, just made-up descriptions to indicate the content of each section.

 

[Doug Otte]

FYI, the blu-ray sets don't have chapter access on the menus. The episodes are indeed divided into chapters, but you have to skip to the desired chapter after starting the episode from the beginning. I don't know why they removed this feature, when it existed on the previous DVD sets.

Doug

 

[Lord Garth]

Slight tangent: I didn't notice until I read the thread title that TOS was re-released every five years.

 

[Hober Mallow]

Slight tangent: I didn't notice until I read the thread title that TOS was re-released every five years.

Yep. And in 2014, once blu-ray is obsolete, it will be released in the Direct to Parietal Lobe format.

 

[jefferiestubes8]

Slight tangent: I didn't notice until I read the thread title that TOS was re-released every five years.

Don't worry CBS Television will not be releasing it in UltraHD

Even though in Japan

the Japanese government has announced plans to bring Super Hi-Vision (a.k.a. Ultra High Definition) to life as a broadcast standard by 2015.

http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/14/33-megapixel-super-hi-vision-ultra-hdtv-could-be-on-the-air-in/

a Super Hi-Vision display [Ultra HD]
with resolution of 7,680-by-4,320 pixels.
at a rate of 60-frames per second (fps)

The 2009 Blu-rays of the TOS seasons are the best looking that series is going to get for consumers.

 

[Christopher]

Slight tangent: I didn't notice until I read the thread title that TOS was re-released every five years.

It's a five-year intermission!

 

[thumbtack]

Direct to Parietal Lobe format.

Sounds too pricey for me.

 

[Lord Garth]

Slight tangent: I didn't notice until I read the thread title that TOS was re-released every five years.

It's a five-year intermission!

Where the new format has never gone before!

 

[Hober Mallow]

Direct to Parietal Lobe format.

Sounds too pricey for me.

Wait until they release it with Playstation 4. The price will drop.

 

[milo bloom]

Slight tangent: I didn't notice until I read the thread title that TOS was re-released every five years.

Don't worry CBS Television will not be releasing it in UltraHD

Even though in Japan

the Japanese government has announced plans to bring Super Hi-Vision (a.k.a. Ultra High Definition) to life as a broadcast standard by 2015.

http://hd.engadget.com/2008/01/14/33-megapixel-super-hi-vision-ultra-hdtv-could-be-on-the-air-in/

a Super Hi-Vision display [Ultra HD]
with resolution of 7,680-by-4,320 pixels.
at a rate of 60-frames per second (fps)

The 2009 Blu-rays of the TOS seasons are the best looking that series is going to get for consumers.

Do we need to go over this again? TOS was filmed and edited on "film". Film still has a higher resolution than Bluray, we could conceivably go through 2 or 3 more formats before we reach the level of film resolution.

TOS could, in fact, look better than Bluray.