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Do they celebrate Christmas in the 24th Century?

Why Xmas? Around here, it's always been Yule, and probably always will be - this Christianity fad has only added some angels to the iconography of the festival. When it blows over, Yule will remain, now complete with the angels. Oh, and the kid in the manger, but he or she was always there anyway, since midwinter is all about rebirth in any case.
Yep, Christmas and other festivities are all of pagan origin anyway - they were just conveniently turned into Christian holidays, just like many of the former deities blended into Christian saints, and most people aren't even aware of what the original meaning of the holiday was. It's not like we really know when Jesus was born, is it? So it's hardly a coincidence, is it, that Christmas falls roughly at the time of norther hemisphere winter solstice.

In Serbian/Croatian, Christmas is called Božić, which literally means "little god". Most people would probably assume it's Jesus, unless they have had studied a bit of Slavic mythology as a part of Cultural Studies at the university, like I have, in which case you learn about stuff such as some old Christmas folk songs about the birth of "Božić, Svarožić" - "little god, Svarožić (Svarog's son, little Svarog)" - Svarog being the Slavic Sun god. Basically, it was about the death of the old Sun (god) and the birth of the new, young Sun (god) - winter solstice, when the daylight time is the shortest and then starts becoming longer with each day.

Traditions and especially traditional festivities tend to outlive their initial reason for existence, and it's likewise quite possible than people in the 24th century could celebrate holidays like Christmas regardless of whether they are religious or how they feel about Jesus.
 
I'm not sure the man from Nazareth would much appreciate Christmas, either.

And Christmas today is for the children to celebrate, mainly - but the parents are dragged into it nevertheless. When Captain Picard Day becomes a Federation-wide holiday with pompous ceremonies, gradiose places of worship, and copious merchandise, the adults eventually have to step in.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Depending on how you see TNG era stardates then by the end of each series there are episodes set near to or around a few weeks to Christmas. In fact doing a quick search I found only one episode that is set on Dec 25th, TNG's Descent part 1 but obviously the crew would've been a bit preoccupied to think about Chistmas.
 
They only celebrated Christmas when people from the 20th/21st century were around, so that they could show them how much more evolved their Christmases are.
 
Do you suppose it was part Gene Roddenberry's reason for not having any religious themes on Star Trek that there never were any Christmas episodes?:confused:

James
 
I'm kinda glad they've never done a christmas episode.

I remember a halloween episode of Voyager that was cringe inducingly terrible.
 
Do you suppose it was part Gene Roddenberry's reason for not having any religious themes on Star Trek that there never were any Christmas episodes?:confused:

James
Have you ever watched TOS "Bread and Circuses"? Uhura's explanation of sun worshipers being followers of Christ is very moving, and something which is missing from most of PC TV.
 
Since they do not value possessions in the enlightened 24th century, hopefully they celebrate the true meaning without the commercialism of this century.

I agree. It is time we remembered the true meaning of the Pagan festival of Christmas. Those damn Christians hijacking all the good parties. ;)
 
^ I suppose I should have read to the end of the thread before posting that, as someone has already put it much more eloquently than I ever could :)

Why Xmas? Around here, it's always been Yule, and probably always will be - this Christianity fad has only added some angels to the iconography of the festival. When it blows over, Yule will remain, now complete with the angels. Oh, and the kid in the manger, but he or she was always there anyway, since midwinter is all about rebirth in any case.
Yep, Christmas and other festivities are all of pagan origin anyway - they were just conveniently turned into Christian holidays, just like many of the former deities blended into Christian saints, and most people aren't even aware of what the original meaning of the holiday was. It's not like we really know when Jesus was born, is it? So it's hardly a coincidence, is it, that Christmas falls roughly at the time of norther hemisphere winter solstice.

In Serbian/Croatian, Christmas is called Božić, which literally means "little god". Most people would probably assume it's Jesus, unless they have had studied a bit of Slavic mythology as a part of Cultural Studies at the university, like I have, in which case you learn about stuff such as some old Christmas folk songs about the birth of "Božić, Svarožić" - "little god, Svarožić (Svarog's son, little Svarog)" - Svarog being the Slavic Sun god. Basically, it was about the death of the old Sun (god) and the birth of the new, young Sun (god) - winter solstice, when the daylight time is the shortest and then starts becoming longer with each day.

Traditions and especially traditional festivities tend to outlive their initial reason for existence, and it's likewise quite possible than people in the 24th century could celebrate holidays like Christmas regardless of whether they are religious or how they feel about Jesus.
 
There is also mention of a Christmas party that Kirk went to in the episode 'Dagger of the Mind.' So, I think that Christmas according to Star Trek will not be forgotten, the question is will Santa have his own space shuttle by then:lol:?
 
Folks on the Enterprise-D were celebrating the Hindu Festival of Lights aka Diwali ("Data's Day")
 
Voyager had a "Halloween" episode? Which one was it? (I could think of more than a few that could pass as a Halloween eipisode)
 
Folks on the Enterprise-D were celebrating the Hindu Festival of Lights aka Diwali ("Data's Day")
Not the entire ship. A certain person or a group was, judging from the way Data said it in his letter to Commander Maddox.
 
Since they do not value possessions in the enlightened 24th century, hopefully they celebrate the true meaning without the commercialism of this century.

I agree. It is time we remembered the true meaning of the Pagan festival of Christmas. Those damn Christians hijacking all the good parties. ;)

^ I suppose I should have read to the end of the thread before posting that, as someone has already put it much more eloquently than I ever could :)
Once again, the point was completely missed. Many neglect to recognize that the true meaning of Christmas is the birth of the Christ child, Jesus. My post had nothing to do with the trappings later heaped upon the true celebration of the coming of our long-awaited Messiah.
The commercialization is symptomatic of the lost meaning of what the believer celebrates: the arrival of Messiah. The actual day it is celebrated is irrelevant; the meaning is very relevant. Evergreen trees, toys, egg nog, etc. are not relevant to the true meaning of Christ-mass.
Now you understand the true meaning of Christmas... and my post.

Sector 7, reflecting
 
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