Hologram Nurse

[Taylirious]

If I was on VOY I would want 7 Of 9 as my nurse.

I really don't understand how holographic technology works, but I thought you needed a whole room, then the mobile holographic thingy was created for the EMH. I think a holo-nurse would have been great and they could have made it so a different looking nurse would appear, one time a woman, another a man...different races or each crew member could have a personal preference of what they want the nurse to look like.


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[Kaziarl]

Oops, disregard the first query of the last post- just watched Equinox Part II, the Doc and his evil twin in sickbay at the same time. :P

But were both on the hologrid, or was one operating from the portable emitter?

There was an episode where they had the Vidian woman hooked into the holo system. Don't quite remember the technobabble behind it, but the Doctor somehow put her mind in "light bulb" version of her physical body, and we got to see what they look like under the phage.

 

[CaptainStoner]

I like the idea of an episode where the Doctor creates a holographic nurse all on his own. It could have been analogous to TNG's The Offspring!

Great idea. Analogous, but quite different, with a romantic element. Man, this board is full of creative minds.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Well, in "Real Life" (I think), the Doc had an entire family. Imagine, if he had brought his 'wife' to work one day to assist him, all the patients would get sugar-shock.

 

[Bones2]

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Or she could keep calling him, asking what time he'd be home and what he wants for dinner.

Only Voyager.

 

[nx1701g]

But were both on the hologrid, or was one operating from the portable emitter?

Both were on the hologrid. Equinox's Doctor doesn't appear to be wearing the mobile emitter when he's ordered deleted by Voyager's Doctor.

 

[Michael]

Great idea. Analogous, but quite different, with a romantic element. Man, this board is full of creative minds.

Wow, thanks. And you are right, it would have to be different from The Offspring, but at the same time it could have a similar dramatic impact. I like Tommy Boy's idea here ...

Well, in "Real Life" (I think), the Doc had an entire family. Imagine, if he had brought his 'wife' to work one day to assist him, all the patients would get sugar-shock.

Yeah, make it a follow-up to Real Life! It's one of the episodes that really needed a follow-up. And it would provide a wonderful basis for the holographic nurse plot. Someone should write a fanfic about this!

 

[od0_ital]

The latest Voyager book has a ship with supplemental holographic nurses, holo-engineers, holo-security guards, etc.

Yeah, the VOY line from Pocket took holo-tech to an extreme.

The first couple of books of the VOY Relaunch had Janeway, Mark & Mark's wife havin' dinner at a holo-restaurant, with holo-waitstaff and holo-furniture. So, when the holograms went "on strike," it left Janeway & everyone else sittin' on a slab of holo-emitters.

 

[The Badger]

There was an episode where somehow a backup of the doctor got left behind on an alien world.

Prior to it being left behind (for reasons I don't know) why didn't they just activate it and have two doctors?

I seem to recall just a few episodes before that one that they said quite clearly that there was no back up of the doctor. Continuity was never Voyager's strong point.

 

[Crewman47]

I also don't understand why they couldn't have come up with a nurse or two, real or holographic. As said above Chakotay could probably have had medics on his crew and instead of putting them where they may have ended up they could've been assigned to Sickbay and I've said before on another thread but there were plenty of Science division crew members who could've been medically trained to a level above Tom Paris and they could've assisted in the extreme cases. I also think that if they had thought more about it then Ensign Jetal would still be alive cause they'd have the Doctor work on one and have someone else work on the other while the Doc talks them through the procedure.

 

[belle paris]

Or they could've made 'nurse' a job transfer option. I'm sure some of the crewmembers would've been interested in trying a different field. Imagine if a Vulcan volunteered.....who would get on whose nerves first?

 

[JB2005]

I don't see why the Doc couldn't have run himself in 2+ instances as a hologram...

 

[exodus]

A nurse would still need to know Gray's Anatomy(no, not the TV show) which is a basic understanding of the make up of the human body. Harry couldn't find the enough data storage for the Doc's program and one for a nurse. That's why he couldn't complete the programming for a second EMH. So if Voyager wanted a holo-nurse, they'd have to delete the Doc.

The Doc was lucky to have Kes as long as he did. She learned in one week what it normally takes 2 or more years to accomplish.

 

[Thestral]

The Doctor is a computer program, so they could just create a second projection and let him control both. IIRC they did this on mass scale with him in "Places of Exile", letting him control thousands of "bodies" across an interstellar civilization.

Which was absolutely brilliant. (The whole story, really)

 

[Timo]

Harry couldn't find the enough data storage for the Doc's program and one for a nurse. That's why he couldn't complete the programming for a second EMH. So if Voyager wanted a holo-nurse, they'd have to delete the Doc.

Or then they'd have to give the task of building the nurse to somebody more competent than Harry Kim.

There must be enough memory for Gray's Anatomy in the ship's computers - because the work was in the computers! And it was possible to compile expert programs with complex skills in other instances. It just seems that Kim tried a clumsy brute-force approach, the sort one might use when assembling characters for holo-entertainment with simplistic macro commands, instead of doing it the professional way.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Bertie]

Or they could've made 'nurse' a job transfer option. I'm sure some of the crewmembers would've been interested in trying a different field. Imagine if a Vulcan volunteered.....who would get on whose nerves first?

You know, all those people down on Deck 15, Samantha Wildman, the Delaney Sisters...all of them were way more busy than Tom Paris, a mere bridge officer who just had to steer the ship and stuff.

 

[exodus]

Harry couldn't find the enough data storage for the Doc's program and one for a nurse. That's why he couldn't complete the programming for a second EMH. So if Voyager wanted a holo-nurse, they'd have to delete the Doc.

Or then they'd have to give the task of building the nurse to somebody more competent than Harry Kim.

There must be enough memory for Gray's Anatomy in the ship's computers - because the work was in the computers! And it was possible to compile expert programs with complex skills in other instances. It just seems that Kim tried a clumsy brute-force approach, the sort one might use when assembling characters for holo-entertainment with simplistic macro commands, instead of doing it the professional way.

Timo Saloniemi

Can't really say since we're not really sure how the data to create these holo-people is stockpiled. Harry was supposed to be a genius and top of his class in this area, so I think we'd have to assume he knows what he's doing.

 

[timothy1701]

The whole Crell Moset episode was iritating to me. At the end they got rid of him!? Why not just change his apperance, or just get another holographic doctor. You just KNOW there has to be a holographic verson of McCoy. Wouldn't that be great?
McCoy: Dammit, I'm a DOCTOR! Not an engineer!
Doctor: I'm a hologram, not a warp coil!
They would get along GREAT.

 

[apenpaap]

The whole Crell Moset episode was iritating to me. At the end they got rid of him!? Why not just change his apperance, or just get another holographic doctor. You just KNOW there has to be a holographic verson of McCoy. Wouldn't that be great?
McCoy: Dammit, I'm a DOCTOR! Not an engineer!
Doctor: I'm a hologram, not a warp coil!
They would get along GREAT.

Or Phlox: "Now, Doctor: where do you keep your osmotic eel? Don't tell me you left spacedock without one!"

 

[exodus]

The whole Crell Moset episode was iritating to me. At the end they got rid of him!? Why not just change his apperance, or just get another holographic doctor.

..because the ep. wasn't about his appearence, it was actualy about his unethical practices. Moset would torture, mame & poison innocent people just to test medical rescearch. It's based on real life events that Nazi doctors used to do. The question was, is it ethically right to practice of living human beings.

So even if they changed his appearance, he's still have the knowledge and questionable morals of Crell Moset.

Great(except for the rubber alien) but much outlooked ep. IMO. I'm surprised it's not an issue being heatedly debated in this forum.