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Watchmen tentacle monster?

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What is this tentacle monster that I've heard about in the Watchmen comic? It wasn't in the movie. I've also heard that the author of the comic was complaining about the movie.
 
Changing the tentacle monster was about the only deviation from the original that the movie got right. But, yeah, read the book.
 
What is this tentacle monster that I've heard about in the Watchmen comic? It wasn't in the movie. I've also heard that the author of the comic was complaining about the movie.
READ THE BOOK!!!!!!!!!! what are you cheap??? the Paper back is just $20.00.:vulcan:
 
I've also heard that the author of the comic was complaining about the movie.
I think that has always been and will always be the case with any film based on Alan Moore's work.
Some fans did an animated movie of "Black Legacy," his Doctor Who comics, and Moore gave the adaptation his stamp of approval:
First, let me say how much I enjoyed Black Legacy. It is not only the first screen adaptation of my work that I've actually watched more that the first five minutes of before being overcome with rage and disgust, it is the only screen adaptation of my work that I've enjoyed from start to finish and can say I thoroughly approve of.
 
I never understood the reasoning behind changing this. If anything both Hellboy 1&2 and the Mist showed that you can do Lovecraft kind of monsters and people will accept them. So I don't really buy the argument that they could not include the "squid" monster.
 
I think it had less to do with the audience's ability to accept a bit tentacled monster and more to do with it requiring the inclusion of several supporting plot threads(the island, the missing artists, geneticists etc.) With the film already pushing the three hour mark, including that as well would have just pushed it over the edge. Replicating Manhattan's powers were just a simpler approach and IMO worked just as well.

As for Moore, I think he's said he has no intention of watching it and that's the end of it.

As far as "For the Man Who Has Everything", I was under the impression he approved of it, or at least wasn't openly opposed. Perhaps it slipped his mind (it has been a few years) or perhaps he was just being polite to Bruce Timm. It did after all diverge quite a bit from his original piece (though I rather prefer the adaption, personally.)

[EDIT] There's my faulty memory again. According to this post by Bruce Timm over on Toon Zone, they never heard from Moore, but Gibbons did seam to approve. So (unless I missed a subsequent post) it looks like either Moore never saw it or he got five minutes in and was overcome with rage and disgust.
 
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It wasn't that they couldn't include it. It was that it didn't work as a proper end to the story. But I won't spend much time defending that film. Not worth the effort.
 
It wasn't that they couldn't include it. It was that it didn't work as a proper end to the story. But I won't spend much time defending that film. Not worth the effort.

This.

It's was a colossal WTF moment in the comic that came out of nowhere (which is saying something considering all the hints peppered through the story) and which would have been absolutely ridiculous and stupid on the big screen. It just didn't fit in with the feel of the world or the powers or abilities presented therein.

It was an over-the-top Superman-level threat in a down-to-earth Dick Tracy-level story.

Changing it to Dr. Manhattan was inspired and it explained Ozymandias' investments in manipulating him far more than it did in the comic. Painting him as the villain and, convincing him to play the part of the villian was not only cooler, but it fits in with the Machiavellian type of mind Ozy was played up to having.

Big stupid psychic alien-DNA monsters... not so much.
 
It wasn't that they couldn't include it. It was that it didn't work as a proper end to the story. But I won't spend much time defending that film. Not worth the effort.

This.

It's was a colossal WTF moment in the comic that came out of nowhere (which is saying something considering all the hints peppered through the story) and which would have been absolutely ridiculous and stupid on the big screen. It just didn't fit in with the feel of the world or the powers or abilities presented therein.

It was an over-the-top Superman-level threat in a down-to-earth Dick Tracy-level story.

Changing it to Dr. Manhattan was inspired and it explained Ozymandias' investments in manipulating him far more than it did in the comic. Painting him as the villain and, convincing him to play the part of the villian was not only cooler, but it fits in with the Machiavellian type of mind Ozy was played up to having.

Big stupid psychic alien-DNA monsters... not so much.

Indeed--when I first heard about the changed ending, I was angry, but it really does work better.

My only question is why they kept Bubastis, if they weren't going to have a genetically engineered, psychic alien bee-squid-thing.
 
I thought Moore actually LIKED the DC adaption of "For the Man who has Everything"...
 
I loved the giant squid. I think it's part of what makes Watchmen so great, it's such a left field WTF moment. And the whole point was to make the US and Russia afraid of an alien invasion. I can accept the movie version, it works alright, but I miss me some giant squid.
 
I loved the giant squid. I think it's part of what makes Watchmen so great, it's such a left field WTF moment. And the whole point was to make the US and Russia afraid of an alien invasion. I can accept the movie version, it works alright, but I miss me some giant squid.
And it doesn't come out of nowhere, as some accuse...the setup is scattered throughout the story prior to its materialization:

  • The thing the Comedian sees
  • The genetic engineered Bubastis
  • The missing artist
  • The artists discussing the "thing" they're building on the island
  • "The Day the Earth Stood Still" being played at the theater (a warning to mankind from space)
  • The Institute for Spacial Studies
  • etc.
 
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