Watchmen tentacle monster?
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Narratively, Ozy's villainhood isn't clear, but it's obvious by about the halfway point that he has to be the villain because of what Roger Ebert termed "The Law of Economy of Characters" -- there's simply no one else it could be. Moore doesn't offer any red herrings. I believe that even he has admitted that's a flaw in the story.
I rather thought the unexplained disappearance of Hooded justice was supposed to be the red herring, though perhaps that's a little too subtle to qualify.
So did I, but I can't find any reference to it. Perhaps we were both thinking of Frank Miller's reaction to the DCAU take on DKR.
So did I, but I can't find any reference to it. Perhaps we were both thinking of Frank Miller's reaction to the DCAU take on DKR.
Hooded Justice is supposed to be dead by 1985, but there's the theory that he and Captain Metropolis faked their deaths so they could retire. Dave Gibbons has said of the theory: "That wasn't our intention, but it's such an interesting and plausible theory that I'm reluctant to deny it!"
READ THE BOOK!!!!!!!!!! what are you cheap??? the Paper back is just $20.00.
That's a rather rude thing to say.
Anyhow, I liked the squid but I also liked the movie's ending. Both work for me which is unusual as I'm not easy to please.
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that whole movie set and tentacles would have never paid off, plus Owl and Specter were far more kickass in the movie. In the comic they really came across as lame superheroes
Nite Owl II is a loser in the graphic novel. However, I would gladly go to a Nite Owl movie starring Patrick Wilson.
The only thing I suspect Nite Owl I of, is being the one who sent Silk Spectre I (their real names escape be at the moment) that little porno comic.
I was leaning that way myself as segments of his autobiography are the background material for the first few comics (I was a little disappointed that all this didn't amount to much thematically for the main plot, it was just pure background info.). I think I began to get suspicious of Veidt when he did his feats for television.
I thought the silhouette of the killer looked like Night Owl or Owl man or whatever his name is. I found the Watchmen at half price books for $10.00, but then I ended up buying a few other things instead. I bought the Death of Superman instead since I've never read it. I got this weird game based on Immortal-that weird movie with Horus written by Enki Bilal. I was on a budget after a few large expenditures.
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No one gets it.
The squid was the vanguard of an impossibly powerful unbelievably large empire of uberbeings who were either going to do something completely alien, eat us, or "remove us". That's an unquantified paralysing fear of the unknown that something will get me if I misbehave.
Meanwhile, John got talked into being a Caretaker for five minutes and then he wandered off. They know John, sure they are afraid of him, but they're probably stupid enough to think that they can understand him and deal with him if necessary if not reason or bargain. It's not an ongoing deterrent to humans being human.
Also in the comics, John always knew the outcome the whole way though, but he just had to play his part in the game without using too many spoilers, claiming that he was blind and that this his pretense of a stuardship of mankind was an 11th epiphany just makes him look like a monkey like the rest of us.
No one gets it.
The squid was the vanguard of an impossibly powerful unbelievably large empire of uberbeings who were either going to do something completely alien, eat us, or "remove us". That's an unquantified paralysing fear of the unknown that something will get me if I misbehave.
Meanwhile, John got talked into being a Caretaker for five minutes and then he wandered off. They know John, sure they are afraid of him, but they're probably stupid enough to think that they can understand him and deal with him if necessary if not reason or bargain. It's not an ongoing deterrent to humans being human.
Also in the comics, John always knew the outcome the whole way though, but he just had to play his part in the game without using too many spoilers, claiming that he was blind and that this his pretense of a stuardship of mankind was an 11th epiphany just makes him look like a monkey like the rest of us.
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I was annoyed that the squid was left out of the film, but I do understand why, lord knows how much longer the film would have been to include it.
What I love about the comic is that even after dozens of readings I still pick up on new things I hadn't noticed before. Moore does a wonderful job of littering obvious clues that you just don't notice first time around, that's talent!
What I love about the comic is that even after dozens of readings I still pick up on new things I hadn't noticed before. Moore does a wonderful job of littering obvious clues that you just don't notice first time around, that's talent!
Because you have to have Bubastis for the action figures.
I should add that the added death toll in the film is totally unnecessary--especially the destruction of Moscow, which could easily leave the Soviet strategic forces launching on their own initiative, because they don't know why they've lost contact with their superiors.
Seriously, NYC would have been enough. And why in the world did Veidt target Paris and (iirc) Hong Kong?
I think people can easily handle an alien in a superhero movie. There was no need to change it.
By changing the pretend threat from aliens to Dr. Manhattan, it made sense to have the destruction be more catastrophic. Why would the Russians sue for peace if Dr. Manhattan leveled New York City? It's enough of a stretch that they would sue for peace if aliens destroyed the city, but in that case you can at least assume that the aliens would find no difference between Americans and Russians.
As has been repeatedly stated, it wasn't that people couldn't deal with a squid, it was that if another plot thread were to be added, the film would have been about four hours long.
Plus of course having several major cities attacked lends credence to the idea that it will pull the world together. Not so much because of 9/11 as (to my thinking) because of the Japanese surrender at the end of WWII. If they had just had one city nuked, some elements might think that was the worst of it and kept on fighting. Nuke two cities and they know it's not just a one off.
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